Fauci forecast: 100,000 - 200,000 American deaths.

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Canada has 1/10th the population of the US....and the virus hasn’t made as much inroads.

Obviously, they will have less cases than the US—by far.

Fish's contention seems to be that America has more cases because it is inhabited by a lower form of human beings than Canada.

He said per capita, which he says will be lower as far as percentage of the population.

Canadians still live in packed cities like Americans do. But our rate of transmission is lower because our leadership took this seriously from the onset and people are more compliant in terms of following mitigation efforts. Period.


I have a friend who works an essential service job at a pharmacy. She’s also a long time liquor industry peer, manages liquor stores etc. She belongs to 5 different bar tending groups on Facebook and posted a status this morning about how many states still have all their bars open and are doing a booming bunch of business right now, pouring drinks like mad, gathering and partying. She posed the question whether or not these people understand that they’re failed federal & state leadership are trying to kill them? That’s pretty much how others see what’s going on in much of the USA right now.. just sheer stupidity that’s going to kill a lot of people.

Hmmmmm!

Why is the United States running out of face masks for medical workers? How does the world’s wealthiest country find itself in such a tragic and avoidable mess? And how long will it take to get enough protective gear, if that’s even possible now?

Few in the protective equipment industry are surprised by the shortages, because they’ve been predicted for years. In 2005, the George W. Bush administration called for the coordination of domestic production and stockpiling of protective gear in preparation for pandemic influenza. In 2006, Congress approved funds to add protective gear to a national strategic stockpile — among other things, the stockpile collected 52 million surgical face masks and 104 million N95 respirator masks.

But about 100 million masks in the stockpile were deployed in 2009 in the fight against the H1N1 flu pandemic, and the government never bothered to replace them. This month, Alex Azar, secretary of health and human services, testified that there are only about 40 million masks in the stockpile — around 1 percent of the projected national need.

As the coronavirus began to spread in China early this year, a global shortage of protective equipment began to look inevitable. But by then it was too late for the American government to do much about the problem. Two decades ago, most hospital protective gear was made domestically. But like much of the rest of the apparel and consumer products business, face mask manufacturing has since shifted nearly entirely overseas. “China is a producer of 80 percent of masks worldwide,” Laverdure said.

Source: How the World’s Richest Country Ran Out of a 75-Cent Face Mask

Barrack Obama was president of the United States from January 20, 2009 to January 20 2017. So yes indeed the Obama administration chose to not replenish the huge national strategic stockpile of face masks set aside for the next pandemic.

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I don't know Jimmy, we just had the head of the Mossad on TV and they are scouring the world to try and get masks and respirators. They almost got their hands on 30,000 masks but the German government beat them to the post. There is a serious world shortage.

That is why some countries maintain national strategic reserves. IMHO when the this pandemic began, China (the biggest manufacturer of face mask in the world) diverted all its face mask production to supplying its needs. Then around the January timeframe when China was feeling the full effects of the pandemic, many Chinese citizens bought up all the available stocks of face mask and shipped them back to China. Now the rest of the world is short. Even the components to make face mask are unavailable (because many of these pieces are manufactured in China), so each country is struggling because they cannot buy face mask and cannot make them, even the volunteers are have a hard time getting components.

CA ordered a shelter-in-place on 3/19 with heavily populated counties ordering a shelter-in-place starting 3/17.
NYC only started on 3/20.

Hope this helps.

Those who aren't so great at calculating risk will put themselves at risk more often will more likely stop polluting the population at a younger age. Why can't we let Darwin's theories play out? Those who blame the government for not managing their personal risk appropriately are a troublesome bunch.

California locked down cities and their whole state long before New York even considered it. That’s why their numbers are lower.

How many tests are Texas doing?
If you don’t test you can just say you have zero cases, but that’s not reality.

Unfortunately that’s not the way this works. The virus doesn’t discriminate. It doesn’t only kill stupid people. Those
stupid people eventually come into contact with fairly careful people and this thing keeps spreading. Also, even IF it were only stupid people (which it isn’t) they would clog up the healthcare system pretty quick and people who need medical attention for other things won’t get it & may die. The stupid people will also infect other hospital patients and staff etc. Soooo, just letting Darwin Awards hand themselves out isn’t a practical solution.

A Brooklyn man claiming to be infected with the coronavirus coughed on FBI agents who were investigating him for hoarding medical supplies, the US Attorney’s Office said Monday.

Baruch Feldheim, 43, is facing charges of assault and making false statements to the feds on Sunday outside his Borough Park home where he allegedly peddled and stored massive amounts of N95 respirator masks, federal officials said.

Feldheim is also accused of price-gouging. On March 18, he’s suspected of selling a New Jersey doctor about 1,000 of the masks for $12,000, a markup of roughly 700 percent, authorities said.

The accused fraudster also directed another doctor to an Irvington, NJ, auto repair shop to pick up another order. There, the doctor reported to investigators that Feldheim was allegedly hoarding enough medical supplies “to outfit an entire hospital.”

Materials included: hand sanitizers, Clorox wipes, chemical cleaning supply agents and surgical supplies.

By last Monday, Feldheim was operating from his Brooklyn home, offering to push surgical gowns to a nurse, the feds said.

Two days later, the suspected hoarder received a gigantic shipment to his home of about eight pallets of face masks.



FBI agents then staked out his his house, first noticing empty boxes of N95 masks outside.

On Sunday, they said they witnessed “multiple instances” of people approach Feldheim’s residence and walked away with what appeared to be medical supplies.

The agents confronted Feldheim outside his house, keeping a safe social distance over coronavirus fears.

“When the agents were within four to five feet of him, Feldheim allegedly coughed in their direction without covering his mouth,” the US attorney’s release said. “At that point, Feldheim told the FBI agents that he had the Coronavirus,” the statement said.

Feldheim then allegedly lied to FBI agents regarding his possession and sale of medical supplies.

He falsely told the agents that he worked for a company that bought and sold PPEs and that he never took physical custody of the materials.

Following Feldheim’s arrest, the FBI Monday night raided a warehouse on Pennsylvania Avenue in the industrial section of Linden, N.J. that housed Feldhim’s suspected stash of 80,000 masks. a source said.

Mask-wearing agents and other workers placed the eight pallets of medical supplies into a box truck.

The arrest comes after President Trump claimed that some medical supplies were being swiped from New York City hospitals, which Mayor Bill de Blasio dismissed as insulting.

Source: Brooklyn man arrested for allegedly hoarding masks, coughing on FBI agents

Just a total frigging nut......

Agreed. I wouldn’t intervene if he were to be beaten over this. *turns blind eye & whistles*

Why would we trust our government ? Have you noticed who is President? Who runs the country and why decisions get made? It works both ways, most of the attention is being paid to people who think it is all a bunch of hype but there are people who think the true extent of the crisis is being covered up.

There is an American saying coined by President Reagan that is still oft quoted "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are "I'm from the government, and I'm here to help." Lately even the baked in lack of trust has been intensifying.

Trust Is Collapsing in America - The Atlantic

This attitude for many decades helped the rugged individualism that led to America becoming the dominant power and richest lifestyle etc. Now that advantage is a disadvantage.

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Texas has had 49 deaths. Obviously the virus is not a big problem in the big state so far.

As someone pointed out, California governor Jerry Brown didn't start really cracking down until March 20th.

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