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18 Apr 2020, 12:47 pm

From what I have observed the people who do the most pontificating about science do not really know much about it. They go by a blind or at least myopic appeal to authority. Especially when conformation bias is involved.

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18 Apr 2020, 12:53 pm

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Are people supposed to save their great 2nd ammendment by intimidating governors with firearms, or am I reading too much into that?

Perhaps depending on where you heard that has taken place.

I'm aware of guns being on display at demonstrations from the civil rights movement up until quite recently but don't know what the current laws are.

Why did Trump mention the second amendment?

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18 Apr 2020, 1:13 pm

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Why did Trump mention the second amendment?

In the video I posted his excuse was because Virginia recently had a massive pro gun protest when the state government tried to enact some minor common sense gun restriction laws.

But I suspect his real in the moment reason was to stoke the flames of trigger happy gun nuts into picking up their guns and intimidating their state governors with them.

IMO he’s also testing the waters to see how many of his crazy supporters are willing to pick up their guns and defend him should he ever get himself into a political position where it’s civil war time; trump and his maga hat army vs sane rational Americans.

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18 Apr 2020, 1:15 pm

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That’s why I defer to expert scientists who almost all say we’re f****d and we caused it. Only fringe looneys and people who make their money from the fossil fuel industry have differing opinions. So difficult to determine why they would say otherwise. :roll:

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18 Apr 2020, 2:15 pm

I can assure you that only “fringe” sorts of folks predict that 1.3 billion deaths will occur due to climate change.

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18 Apr 2020, 2:28 pm

its later than you think... join the revolutionbefore its too late , they are currently releasing prisoners on a unsuspecting public............ written by panick stricken individual.

( based on factual info released by local government )

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18 Apr 2020, 2:50 pm

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I can assure you that only “fringe” sorts of folks predict that 1.3 billion deaths will occur due to climate change.

According to my knowledge, Kraftie's right.

Global warming is a real problem but not end of the world.
Coronavirus pandemics is a real problem but not end of the world.
Economy suffering is a real problem but not end of the world.

Why do we seem to systematically neglect one problem for the sake of another? They're all real and neither is its respective exaggerated worst case scenario.

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18 Apr 2020, 5:13 pm

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its later than you think... join the revolutionbefore its too late , they are currently releasing prisoners on a unsuspecting public............ written by panick stricken individual.

( based on factual info released by local government )

Many states are also not sending police to non violent crimes.
Message is. We’re releasing violent criminals and your on your own, good luck.

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18 Apr 2020, 5:20 pm

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Are people supposed to save their great 2nd ammendment by intimidating governors with firearms, or am I reading too much into that?

Why aren’t the left leaning protests relabeled as intimidating? Why’s it only pro constitutional protests labeled as intimidation?

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18 Apr 2020, 5:49 pm

Watching a Trump press briefing is basically Festivus airing of grievances. Personally, I am looking forward to the Feats of Strength.

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18 Apr 2020, 6:05 pm

sly279 wrote:

domineekee wrote:

Are people supposed to save their great 2nd ammendment by intimidating governors with firearms, or am I reading too much into that?

Why aren’t the left leaning protests relabeled as intimidating? Why’s it only pro constitutional protests labeled as intimidation?

It was a question, not a statement and I didn't label anyone. What do you think motivated him to make this call to arms?

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18 Apr 2020, 6:17 pm

sly279 wrote:

domineekee wrote:

Are people supposed to save their great 2nd ammendment by intimidating governors with firearms, or am I reading too much into that?

Why aren’t the left leaning protests relabeled as intimidating? Why’s it only pro constitutional protests labeled as intimidation?

It has nothing to do with who is protesting what & everything to do with the fact that they’re showing up with loaded guns dressed in army guy Halloween costumes.

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18 Apr 2020, 6:33 pm

goldfish21 wrote:

sly279 wrote:

domineekee wrote:

Are people supposed to save their great 2nd ammendment by intimidating governors with firearms, or am I reading too much into that?

Why aren’t the left leaning protests relabeled as intimidating? Why’s it only pro constitutional protests labeled as intimidation?

It has nothing to do with who is protesting what & everything to do with the fact that they’re showing up with loaded guns dressed in army guy Halloween costumes.

We have the right to bear arms and protest with said arms. So you think the bill of rights is intimidating?

The militia aka any able body citizen tends to wear camo(which is also legal to own and wear. I own a lot of camo uniforms)

Bearing arms and wearing camo isnt intimidating except to sjw who don’t like anything or anyone different then them.

Bearing arms tia. Protest about the right to bear arms being attacked is valid.
Just like African Americans sitting in at all white restaurants or buses.

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18 Apr 2020, 6:49 pm

domineekee wrote:

sly279 wrote:

domineekee wrote:

Are people supposed to save their great 2nd ammendment by intimidating governors with firearms, or am I reading too much into that?

Why aren’t the left leaning protests relabeled as intimidating? Why’s it only pro constitutional protests labeled as intimidation?

It was a question, not a statement and I didn't label anyone. What do you think motivated him to make this call to arms?

I’ve seen calls for liberals to liberate red states aka by elections. Nothing I’ve seen from trump calls for arms. Elections for state congresses and governors are coming in November too so he probably wants republicans to vote out democrats in said states. If I was able to and not worried about the virus I’d attend protests too.

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18 Apr 2020, 6:50 pm

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kraftiekortie wrote:

The whole idea of Marxism-Leninist Communism revolves around a “liberation” from the forces of capitalism.

And an expansion of this “liberation” around the world.

The Soviets never "conquered". They always "liberated".

George Orwell mentions this tactic in an essay from 1946.

Worth a read and of course still relevant in today's times.

https://www.orwell.ru/library/essays/po ... sh/e_polit

“...political language has to consist largely of euphemism, question-begging and sheer cloudy vagueness. Defenceless villages are bombarded from the air, the inhabitants driven out into the countryside, the cattle machine-gunned, the huts set on fire with incendiary bullets: this is called pacification. Millions of peasants are robbed of their farms and sent trudging along the roads with no more than they can carry: this is called transfer of population or rectification of frontiers. People are imprisoned for years without trial, or shot in the back of the neck or sent to die of scurvy in Arctic lumber camps: this is called elimination of unreliable elements.”

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18 Apr 2020, 6:56 pm

He has a point, though.

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