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01 Oct 2020, 3:30 am

Exactly. Even bigger. Thanks for posting the map I was describing.

The Wiki map shows other illuminating things.

On one hand:the blue of the Azeri ethnic group extends way beyond Azerbaijan itself. But on the other hand the map shows how one little part of Azerbaijan itself does NOT have any blue. And that section is that same little slice thats being fought over. The disputed region is part of Az but has few ethnic Azaris, and is majority Armenian.

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01 Oct 2020, 3:39 am

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That the problem,large amounts of ethnic Armenians living is the disputed region of Azerbaijan.

What could ever be more important then ethnic pride. :mrgreen:

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02 Oct 2020, 9:42 am

According to Reuters The Armenian government is willing to discuss a cease fire in the desputed Nogorno-Karabakh region.

Baku,has given no response to the offer of peace at this time.

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06 Oct 2020, 11:12 pm

As long as the West doesn't intervene.

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17 Nov 2020, 2:45 pm

And the winner is....

Azerbaijan / Turkey.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-54935196

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17 Nov 2020, 3:27 pm

Poor old Armenians never get an even break.

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17 Nov 2020, 4:00 pm

So, Russia chose Turkey against Iran?
Might be... Russia-Turkey relationship is complicated.

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17 Nov 2020, 4:54 pm

Russia's geopolitical priorities apparently outweigh their Orthodox Christians nationalism. Can't risk losing access through the Dardanelles I guess...
When will the Armenian people see justice? How many more centuries will it be? How much more blood will be spilled and land will be stolen?

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18 Nov 2020, 5:30 am

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Armenian's Orthodoxy is Oriental Orthodoxy, which is a totally different ball game than the Russian Orthodoxy (Eastern Orthodox Christianity). They don't even agree on the same nature of Jesus.

Btw, Armenia is the first Christian country in the world.

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18 Nov 2020, 5:32 am

magz wrote:

So, Russia chose Turkey against Iran?
Might be... Russia-Turkey relationship is complicated.

Iran almost stood still in this conflict, 20% of its people are Azeris after all.

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18 Nov 2020, 6:40 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

roronoa79 wrote:

My mistake, I didn't mean to conflate the two. I forgot most Armenians are miaphysites, not dyophisites. Still, I would have thought the Russian public would have a strong sympathy for fellow 'eastern' Christians. Conservative American christians certainly feel sympathy for Armenians or Copts when they're oppressed by non-Christians, but I've met very few who can actually explain how strongly those Christiana's views differ from their own.

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19 Nov 2020, 2:53 am

magz wrote:

Actually, the disputed territory is inhabited mainly by christian Armenians.
I wonder where Russian little green people emerge.

They come in as 'peacekeepers,' and get elected by Referendum with one selection to join Russia.

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19 Nov 2020, 4:50 am

This war, is just unfinished conflict from the past 20 years. I have two good friends from both sides, and both of them believe that this war is just a result of politics

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19 Nov 2020, 6:16 am

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This war, is just unfinished conflict from the past 20 years. I have two good friends from both sides, and both of them believe that this war is just a result of politics

Isn't it true for most, if not all, wars?

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19 Nov 2020, 6:22 am

roronoa79 wrote:

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

roronoa79 wrote:

Well, it's not really about religion, for instance Saudi Arabia strongly sided with Armenia and it's boycotting Turkish imports.

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Mohammed al-Bishi, a Saudi journalist specializing in economic affairs, told The Media Line that Turkey’s “aggressive regional policies” were behind the rising antipathy.
“This is a reaction to the hostile policies practiced by the Justice and Development Party [AKP, led by Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan] in Iraq, Syria, Libya and now in Azerbaijan,” he said.

Israel, was always with Azerbaijan even back in the 90s and generally their relations with Armenians is sh***y.

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19 Nov 2020, 12:52 pm

magz wrote:

OliveFox wrote:

This war, is just unfinished conflict from the past 20 years. I have two good friends from both sides, and both of them believe that this war is just a result of politics

Isn't it true for most, if not all, wars?

Carl von Clausewitz - Prussian general wrote:

War is the continuation of politics by other means

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