Who/When/Why did it start?

Page 7 of 9 [ 138 posts ] Go to page Previous 1 ... 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 Next

Previous topic | Next topic

Hollywood_Guy
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 11 Nov 2017
Age: 33
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,283
Location: US

27 Oct 2020, 9:17 pm

Coronavirus itself is not the hoax, it is the public society's response to it.

Sylkat
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 2 Sep 2011
Gender: Female
Posts: 17,425

27 Oct 2020, 10:37 pm

I don’t understand.
How is someone’s refusal to protect me and themselves a hoax?

_________________
Sylkat
Student Body President, Miskatonic University

malavois
Snowy Owl

Joined: 9 Oct 2020
Age: 41
Gender: Female
Posts: 130
Location: San Francisco

28 Oct 2020, 12:10 am

The freedom and rights argument just sounds to me like people claiming that their own freedoms and their own rights and their own health and their own safety is more important than anyone else’s and if you value the lives of others you’re a chump.

Sylkat
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 2 Sep 2011
Gender: Female
Posts: 17,425

28 Oct 2020, 12:52 am

I hear you.
But they are endangering themselves by not masking and distancing.

_________________
Sylkat
Student Body President, Miskatonic University

Tempus Fugit
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 20 Oct 2020
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,545

28 Oct 2020, 1:35 am

The flu killed tens millions of people in 2018. How insistent were you that people wear masks then?

I'm all for wearing masks. But the issue is even with 80 million people dying of the flu in just the US alone most people didn't come anywhere remotely close to insisting everyone should wear a mask.

Why not?

magz
Forum Moderator

Joined: 1 Jun 2017
Age: 40
Gender: Female
Posts: 16,283
Location: Poland

28 Oct 2020, 2:32 am

Tempus Fugit wrote:

Where did you get these numbers from?

Quote:

The overall burden of influenza for the 2017-2018 season was an estimated 45 million influenza illnesses, 21 million influenza-associated medical visits, 810,000 influenza-related hospitalizations, and 61,000 influenza-associated deaths.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2017-2018.htm
Could you please link your sources when you provide statistics? Otherwise I might start believing you're conciously spreading misinformation - and that would be a serious transgression.

_________________
Let's not confuse being normal with being mentally healthy.

<not moderating PPR stuff concerning East Europe>

ASPartOfMe
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 25 Aug 2013
Age: 67
Gender: Male
Posts: 36,726
Location: Long Island, New York

28 Oct 2020, 3:16 am

Tempus Fugit wrote:

If the flu killed 80 million out of 328 million Americans no matter what the government did the U.S. would be in massive anarchy and in total dysfunction. Food and water would be scarce and you would not be posting because the power grid and the internet would have collapsed.

_________________
Professionally Identified and joined WP August 26, 2013
DSM 5: Autism Spectrum Disorder, DSM IV: Aspergers Moderate Severity

“My autism is not a superpower. It also isn’t some kind of god-forsaken, endless fountain of suffering inflicted on my family. It’s just part of who I am as a person”. - Sara Luterman

Tempus Fugit
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 20 Oct 2020
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,545

28 Oct 2020, 4:08 am

magz wrote:

Tempus Fugit wrote:

Where did you get these numbers from?

Quote:

I sincerely apologise. My brain went out to lunch when I was appealing to memory. The number is 80 thousand, not 80 million. From:

"Over 80,000 Americans Died of Flu Last Winter, Highest Toll in Years"

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/01/heal ... ccine.html

Last edited by Tempus Fugit on 28 Oct 2020, 4:10 am, edited 1 time in total.

magz
Forum Moderator

Joined: 1 Jun 2017
Age: 40
Gender: Female
Posts: 16,283
Location: Poland

28 Oct 2020, 4:10 am

Tempus Fugit wrote:

"Over 80,000 Americans Died of Flu Last Winter, Highest Toll in Years"

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/01/heal ... ccine.html

That's 80 thousand, not million. A difference by a factor 1000.

_________________
Let's not confuse being normal with being mentally healthy.

<not moderating PPR stuff concerning East Europe>

Tempus Fugit
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 20 Oct 2020
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,545

28 Oct 2020, 4:11 am

magz wrote:

Tempus Fugit wrote:

"Over 80,000 Americans Died of Flu Last Winter, Highest Toll in Years"

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/01/heal ... ccine.html

That's 80 thousand, not million. A difference by a factor 1000.

I elaborated on that above.

I know there are only 7.8 million people on the Earth, which is 93 billion miles away from the sun :jester:

Last edited by Tempus Fugit on 28 Oct 2020, 4:16 am, edited 1 time in total.

magz
Forum Moderator

Joined: 1 Jun 2017
Age: 40
Gender: Female
Posts: 16,283
Location: Poland

28 Oct 2020, 4:15 am

Tempus Fugit wrote:

I elaborated on that above.

Ok.
For some, these numbers are not abstract at all. 80 million is almost 1/4 of US population. Something that killed that many in one year would be a disaster worse than WWII no matter what the government's response would be.

_________________
Let's not confuse being normal with being mentally healthy.

<not moderating PPR stuff concerning East Europe>

kraftiekortie
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 4 Feb 2014
Gender: Male
Posts: 87,510
Location: Queens, NYC

28 Oct 2020, 8:07 am

There are actually almost 8 BILLION people on Earth.

I'm curious: does anybody here know the term "milliard," meaning "1,000 million"?

In the old days, in the UK, a "milliard" was the American "billion," and the "billion" was the American "trillion."

magz
Forum Moderator

Joined: 1 Jun 2017
Age: 40
Gender: Female
Posts: 16,283
Location: Poland

28 Oct 2020, 9:29 am

kraftiekortie wrote:

I'm curious: does anybody here know the term "milliard," meaning "1,000 million"?

In the old days, in the UK, a "milliard" was the American "billion," and the "billion" was the American "trillion."

Polish uses that system. French, I think, too.

_________________
Let's not confuse being normal with being mentally healthy.

<not moderating PPR stuff concerning East Europe>

MaxE
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 2 Sep 2013
Gender: Male
Posts: 5,926
Location: Mid-Atlantic US

28 Oct 2020, 9:46 am

The problem is how commas and dots are used to write numbers in English speaking countries, for example ten million is written as 10,000,000.00 rather than 10.000.000,00.

_________________
My WP story

magz
Forum Moderator

Joined: 1 Jun 2017
Age: 40
Gender: Female
Posts: 16,283
Location: Poland

28 Oct 2020, 10:22 am

MaxE wrote:

The problem is how commas and dots are used to write numbers in English speaking countries, for example ten million is written as 10,000,000.00 rather than 10.000.000,00.

Here, it would be 10 000 000,00.

_________________
Let's not confuse being normal with being mentally healthy.

<not moderating PPR stuff concerning East Europe>

Teach51
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 28 Jan 2019
Gender: Female
Posts: 2,808
Location: Where angels do not fear to tread.

28 Oct 2020, 10:31 am

kraftiekortie wrote:

We say "milliard" in Hebrew for billion.

_________________
My best will just have to be good enough.

Page 7 of 9 [ 138 posts ] Go to page Previous 1 ... 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 Next

Jump to:

Who/When/Why did it start? Post Reply New Topic

Who/When/Why did it start?