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20 Mar 2007, 3:31 pm

why not? when i was at school i could not wear my 'peace' necklace allthough that was what i believed in because it was against school rules
also after spending nine hours having my hair braided i was told to take it out at school even though several black girls were alllowed them
argggggh
i find this type of thing so confusing
how cum doctors can wear hijabs and yet i cant wear anything of my own for infection control reasons
what does everyone else think?
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20 Mar 2007, 3:40 pm

I agree. You should be able to wear anything you want as long as its not hurting anyone.



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20 Mar 2007, 3:44 pm

you mean like in France?

there's no ban on it in the UK at the curent time s'far as I know, there was the British Airways thing about banning religious symbolism like crosses etc

thing is the hijab is not a religious symbol, it's an act of religious observance


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20 Mar 2007, 3:47 pm

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how cum doctors can wear hijabs and yet i cant wear anything of my own for infection control reasons


A note from a doctor or holistic medicine expert explaining why you needed this might have done the trick.

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also after spending nine hours having my hair braided i was told to take it out at school even though several black girls were alllowed them


Black people, if I recall correctly, have a different kind of hair that either has to be braided like that or matted down, at least, or it will grow into an afro or look naturally messy (by anglocentric Western standards.)



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20 Mar 2007, 4:13 pm

I'm sick of ethnic minorities in this country parading around in what looks like granny's old blackout curtains, when if I stuck a blanket over my head and walked into a bank I'd probably get arrested! If they want to live in this country they should at least make some attempt to behave in a way that fits in with our social norms. That means dressing so that people can see your face.

Below can be seen the kind of dress that now dominates many districts of your average British city. This version is more aesthetically pleasing, however, than the ones that are seen over here. As I alluded to earlier, the current fashion in the UK is black.

Of course, it's the women who wear that, the chaps prefer the white-flannel pyjama type garb. Again, if I were to walk into Tesco in my pyjamas with a tea cosy on my head they'd probably call the police.

This is one reason why many of the indigenous population, who can afford it, are moving away from the centres of "ethnic diversity" to quieter rural parts of the country. Not that they want to be able to walk into Tesco in their pyjamas, but because they want to feel like they're living in Britain, not some third-world hell-hole.

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20 Mar 2007, 4:30 pm

To ascan:
Good to see racial intolerance is healthy and active wherever you live..... don't move near me. Please keep these "opinions" to yourself. Be careful what you say, you probably won't like the reactions you are going to get from comments like that. I am personally disgusted by your post.



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20 Mar 2007, 4:38 pm

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To ascan:
Good to see racial intolerance is healthy and active wherever you live..... don't move near me. Please keep these "opinions" to yourself. Be careful what you say, you probably won't like the reactions you are going to get from comments like that. I am personally disgusted by your post.

I don't care what race they are, if they come here to live they should respect the way we do things.



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20 Mar 2007, 4:40 pm

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how cum doctors can wear hijabs and yet i cant wear anything of my own for infection control reasons


A note from a doctor or holistic medicine expert explaining why you needed this might have done the trick.

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also after spending nine hours having my hair braided i was told to take it out at school even though several black girls were alllowed them


Black people, if I recall correctly, have a different kind of hair that either has to be braided like that or matted down, at least, or it will grow into an afro or look naturally messy (by anglocentric Western standards.)

but my hair looked tidy and pretty tied back
i dont understand what you mean by getting a note from a doctor?!
please explain
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20 Mar 2007, 4:42 pm

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I agree. You should be able to wear anything you want as long as its not hurting anyone.

im glad someone agrees
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20 Mar 2007, 4:50 pm

ascan:

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but because they want to feel like they're living in Britain, not some third-world hell-hole.


To equate poverty with clothing or ethnicity is a bit ridiculous not to mention predjudiced. Take the UAE, unemployment there is only 2.4%.

Britain is also the home of the people who you are having a go at. They are part of your nation, accept and be proud of them, chances are they are making your country richer, more diverse and industrious.

I think because us Aspies often find it hard to fit in we should be able to step back and see when we are causing the same kind of suffering upon others.



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20 Mar 2007, 5:11 pm

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To equate poverty with clothing or ethnicity is a bit ridiculous not to mention predjudiced. Take the UAE, unemployment there is only 2.4%.


The dress described is common in many third-world countries. Not all, but many.

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Britain is also the home of the people who you are having a go at. They are part of your nation, accept and be proud of them...


Don't tell an Englishman what he should accept in his own country. I don't think they are part of my country, and I'm not proud of them. Why should I be?


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chances are they are making your country richer, more diverse and industrious.


No. most of the money they generate gets sent back to their relatives abroad.

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I think because us Aspies often find it hard to fit in we should be able to step back and see when we are causing the same kind of suffering upon others.


What suffering? Anyway, if they made some attempt to assimilate few would complain.

My views are very common over here, btw, many of us are sick of being second class citizens in our own country. I spoke to a chap who runs a local shop, the other day, and he said he moved here, away from the London, because he wanted his children educated in a school where the bulk of the kids were British, and could actually speak our language.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/11/28/nrace28.xml



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20 Mar 2007, 5:21 pm

Kudos to ascan for having describe the situation in an aspie like honest and "as we see it" manner. That is the reality, people should get over the mentality of what few people did centuries ago is the best way to do even now. This is a pighead attitude.



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20 Mar 2007, 5:25 pm

calm down this is the problem you cant ask questions without ppl being prejudice
i was only asking becoz why shud there be one rule for one person and anuther rule for the others as nurses we are not allowed to wear any religious symbol yet doctors can
thats what i was sayng
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im not very good at saying what i mean sorry ! !


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20 Mar 2007, 5:28 pm

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Kudos to ascan for having describe the situation in an aspie like honest and "as we see it" manner. That is the reality, people should get over the mentality of what few people did centuries ago is the best way to do even now. This is a pighead attitude.

Thanks daspie. Many call me a racist, the truth is quite the opposite: I don't agree with people getting special treatment because of their race, which is the current situation the left have foisted upon us.



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20 Mar 2007, 5:28 pm

ascan wrote:
Vegasadelphia wrote:
To ascan:
Good to see racial intolerance is healthy and active wherever you live..... don't move near me. Please keep these "opinions" to yourself. Be careful what you say, you probably won't like the reactions you are going to get from comments like that. I am personally disgusted by your post.

I don't care what race they are, if they come here to live they should respect the way we do things.


They really do come here, some of them, and disrespect the way we do things and call us "immoral." It wouldn't be so threatening if it weren't for the fact that a lot of Americans know what Moslems do to "immoral" people. I realize that most of them are a lot nicer than that and came here to get away from that, but they also tend to bring the crap with them, the way that I tend to carry my mother everywhere I go.



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20 Mar 2007, 5:30 pm

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...calm down this is the problem you cant ask questions without ppl being prejudice [...]
im not very good at saying what i mean sorry ! !

You've nothing to be sorry for. We're just having a good old fashioned discussion unfettered by the chains of political correctness — at least I am!