U.S. is officially putting boots on the ground in Syria!

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30 Oct 2015, 5:38 pm

Today Obama gave the order sending up to 50 Special Ops troops into Syria to train an assist the moderate factions fighting Assad.

The order does not set a hard cap on how many can be sent to Syria.


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/31/world ... .html?_r=0


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31 Oct 2015, 2:26 am

The U.S. will not going against ISIL , they will be going against the well financed and well armed Quds Force from Iran



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31 Oct 2015, 2:45 am

Jeeze. It didn't work the last n-th times they've done it. But this time, our proxies will fight as we tell them to and hand in the weapons after they are done! Oh wait...

What's to stop this new lot of 'moderates' from turning into ISIL 2.0? I mean, it had happened so many times already that you have to question the US government's sanity...

Well, at least Americans now know for sure where their tax will be spent in the next few years...



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02 Nov 2015, 3:23 am

frenchmanflats wrote:
The U.S. will not going against ISIL , they will be going against the well financed and well armed Quds Force from Iran



I think not, the US is now in good terms with Iran, they are there to fight Russia by proxy.



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02 Nov 2015, 3:30 am

When did Congress approve Obama's war?



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02 Nov 2015, 5:10 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
frenchmanflats wrote:
The U.S. will not going against ISIL , they will be going against the well financed and well armed Quds Force from Iran



I think not, the US is now in good terms with Iran, they are there to fight Russia by proxy.



The only reason why Iran is chummy with the U.S. that Iran are going to get the assets that was frozen in 1979 after the Shah was overthown. Iran still dislikes the U.S. and Israel. As long Israel and the United States are allies, Iran will always refer the United States as the "Great Satan". The Russians and Iran are allies. The Russians,Chinese,and North Koreans are the biggest customers in military armaments, such as missile technology. Iran will still prop up Bashir Al-Assad at all costs. Barak Chamberlain has an foreign policy of appeasement.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quds_Force



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02 Nov 2015, 8:47 am

There are more CIA in Syria than there are that, 50 special forces to "train" the Kurds is a symbolic gesture than anything and probably towards Turkey more than any one else who is a primary sponsor of ISIS and persecutor of the Kurds. Of course, congress has no say in this.



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02 Nov 2015, 10:20 am

Shrapnel wrote:
When did Congress approve Obama's war?

They didn't. Obama hasn't done anything through appropriate channels throughout his two terms, why should he start now?
His sending 50 troops is criminal. That number is too low for them to defend themselves, but it is enough to get ISIS and the Assad regime excited to the point that they will actively hunt our Special Forces in Syria down.


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02 Nov 2015, 6:22 pm

I stand with Assad. Destroy those American created ISIS monsters.



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02 Nov 2015, 6:52 pm

The following post is ironic to illustrate the absurdity of the anti-Syrian warmongering. Irony and sarcasm tends to go over peoples heads on the internet and especially on autism boards, this disclaimer is much needed.

I am an activist for peace in the middle east, to clarify my stance. I want Syria to be left alone and to be autonomous, not be dictated by world police policies.

That being said, the following commentary to each photo is to be read in a typical southern baptist kind of accent, for maximum effect:


For perspective, here are some terrorist photos of terrorist Assad and his terrorist family.

They must have photoshopped away the burqas and bombs, right? Those terrorists sure are good at photoshop.

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Oh no! Terrorist birthday cake!

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Terrorist boy taking terrorist photo of terrorist father

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Look at that little terrorist! Can't wait to jihad.

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Such terrorists. I bet they'll love some democracy, don't they?



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02 Nov 2015, 8:19 pm

xile123 wrote:
I stand with Assad. Destroy those American created ISIS monsters.




I think that the Quds Force is doing better job dealing with ISIS



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02 Nov 2015, 9:51 pm

Thank you, W Bush. Thank you for getting us into an endless forever war with lies about a nonexistent association with Al Qaeda, and WMD that had been destroyed years before, in order to fuel your ego trip to one up your old man, and finish off Saddam Hussein.


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03 Nov 2015, 5:36 pm

Neotenous Nordic,


How ridiculous and naive of you, there's no unifying looks of terrorists.

Hitler looked modern too with his family too.
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You Americans have never lived under the rule of of his national "army" (more of war bandits), unlike me.

I stand my ground: May death comes upon him.

And he's the main beneficiary of ISIS:

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Mohammed Al-Saud is under no illusions. “In 2011, the majority of the current ISIS leadership was released from jail by Bashar Al Assad
- Look up for those facts, coincidence?

www.newsweek.com/how-syrias-assad-helpe ... sis-255631



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04 Nov 2015, 8:27 am

That ^.

Plus its been kinda obvious that Assad, and ISIS, have actually been in symbiosis, and have been in a tacit non aggression pact.

Both turn their backs to each other so that Assad is free to attack westward to destroy every other Syrian sect that isnt ISIS. And ISIS is free to focus eastward towards Iraq to fight the Kurds, the Iranians, and whats left of the Iraqi army. In fact their under the table friendship is quite similiar to that of Netanyahu to Hamas ( the Israeli leader loves the more extreme and Islamist Hamas because they make him look good, and favors Hamas at the expense of the more appealing-and-therefore-more-dangerous-to-him moderate secular Fatah).But I digress.

However: if it turns out that it was ISIS who shot down that Russian airliner, and killed all of those civilians then Assad might be forced to stop that game. Putin already has Russian boots on the ground in Syria, and Putin would be forced to seriously attack ISIS to avenge the airliner incident. And the Russians might force their Syrian client to do the same:join in in seriously fighting ISIS.

Is it possible that ISIS has just recruited Russia as our best ally against ISIS? Seems to good to be true, but thats how its starting to look.

But the downside of allowing Russia to do heavy lifting in defeating ISIS would be us tolerating Assad staying in power over at least some portion of what was once Syria. Since Assad is the lesser evil compared to ISIS that might not be a bad deal though.



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04 Nov 2015, 10:11 am

frenchmanflats wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
frenchmanflats wrote:
The U.S. will not going against ISIL , they will be going against the well financed and well armed Quds Force from Iran



I think not, the US is now in good terms with Iran, they are there to fight Russia by proxy.



The only reason why Iran is chummy with the U.S. that Iran are going to get the assets that was frozen in 1979 after the Shah was overthown. Iran still dislikes the U.S. and Israel. As long Israel and the United States are allies, Iran will always refer the United States as the "Great Satan". The Russians and Iran are allies. The Russians,Chinese,and North Koreans are the biggest customers in military armaments, such as missile technology. Iran will still prop up Bashir Al-Assad at all costs. Barak Chamberlain has an foreign policy of appeasement.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quds_Force


Somebody called my name? :)

Once there was a president in Syria called Khafez l-Assad. That means basically something like "keeper lion" in shami dialect of Arabic. Now there is a president called Bashar l-Assad which means "Brings good news lion". A- Rabi l-Arabi (the arab spring) is not flowering anymore...



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04 Nov 2015, 10:33 am

Anti-Assad sentiment is biased media representation. Check the allegiance of key-persons in American media and you see whose interests they serve.

Syria wants to be left alone. Someone is funding rebels to make up excuses for intervention. You'll see the same in Iran once Syria has gotten "democracy".
Russia is the bad guy now because he is helping Assad halt the destabilization of Syria. Certain interests in the U.S does not like that, which explains the increased Russophobe sentiment.

Here in Europe, certain interests have influence over the media, but not to such an extent as in the U.S, so we can put the pieces together. Those of us who dig a little deeper, that is.

I think it's time to stop f*****g around in the middle east and to expose the warmongerers and their lobbying in the U.S. I think Americans would very much start to clean up the mess in their own country and let the middle east sort their problems out themselves, plug the giant drain in the economy that comes from the incessant warmongering that is not in the interest of the American people.

Angry Syrians are pouring into Europe because of U.S warmongering. How many Syrians have U.S taken in? How many have Israel taken in? The gulf states?

But we have to deal with it, and these people think we all signed a door to door petition to bomb the living daylights out of them when the blame is on anti-democratic mafia like NATO, UN and EU who serve the interests of... let's just call them highest bidders.

None of us wanted it. Don't believe what the media is telling you about Assad, it's all bought and paid for.