Should United Airlines Officers Be Charged for Assault?

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10 Apr 2017, 7:49 pm

The Atlantic: The Deeper Scandal of That Brutal United Video The footage is shocking. So is the law.

The video is everywhere, so I won't link it. To my mind, the passenger was not identified as a security threat, therefore there was no justification to physically drag him off the plane. They wanted his seat because they had overbooked (which United apologized for) and they wanted the seat for one of their employees. The passenger who was forcibly removed did not want to take a later flight because he was a doctor and was scheduled to see patients.

I think United should be charged with assault.



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10 Apr 2017, 7:52 pm

My attitude is that unless United permanently quits overbooking, their apology is hypocrisy.
He's not the root of the problem, United is.


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10 Apr 2017, 8:06 pm

kitesandtrainsandcats wrote:
My attitude is that unless United permanently quits overbooking, their apology is hypocrisy.
He's not the root of the problem, United is.

No kidding.

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They wanted his seat for one of their employees. So they physically attacked him. Is civilization breaking down or am I being overly dramatic?



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10 Apr 2017, 8:10 pm

Even though my mind is too tired to completely take it in I played on Google and found this,
http://time.com/4733837/united-airlines ... erbooking/
Should Overbooking Flights Be Illegal?
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10 Apr 2017, 8:21 pm

androbot01 wrote:
They wanted his seat for one of their employees. So they physically attacked him. Is civilization breaking down or am I being overly dramatic?


Civilization is breaking down.
And United Airlines didn't care at all about the doctor's patients, either.



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10 Apr 2017, 9:05 pm

As the laws are currently set up, money is power. Since so much wealth is concentrated in large corporations, they have a huge advantage over the consumers. With the appointment of someone like Gorsuch to the Supreme Court, this disparity of power will get worse.


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10 Apr 2017, 9:16 pm

Luckily this sought of conduct is not permitted in Australian airlines

I might have to put America in a special category of "civilised countries" the way it treats it's own citizens



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10 Apr 2017, 9:23 pm

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I might have to put America in a special category of "civilised countries" the way it treats it's own citizens
How about something like pseudocivilized? Or, for y'all use that other English, pseudocivilised. :D


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10 Apr 2017, 9:51 pm

I imagine this is the result of post-9/11 counter-terrorism measures that are being abused as can be expected.
On and airliner + not immediately complying with the most ridiculous of demands = terrorist, and with that all the stops can be pulled out.

I wonder what will happen if (when) someday the other passengers became so engaged that they come to the rescue of a passenger in a situation like that and in a mob beat and stomp the cops damn near to or all the way to death.
The cops are only an instrument of the law but still...


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10 Apr 2017, 10:05 pm

Honestly, I'm increasingly preferring to take a bus over flying. You don't have to go through all those intrusive searches and don't have to deal with stuff like overbooking. It's faster than driving yourself.


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10 Apr 2017, 10:25 pm

We need more trains.
I haven't been on a plane since you could smoke on one,I don't see any reason to ever get on one again.Not only do you get molested by TSA now you get a beat down.No Thanky.


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10 Apr 2017, 10:40 pm

kitesandtrainsandcats wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
I might have to put America in a special category of "civilised countries" the way it treats it's own citizens
How about something like pseudocivilized? Or, for y'all use that other English, pseudocivilised. :D


if the shoe fits I guess...



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10 Apr 2017, 10:43 pm

Raptor wrote:
I imagine this is the result of post-9/11 counter-terrorism measures that are being abused as can be expected.


Which conveniently ignores the fact the airline was trying to make money by overbooking passengers...I know of some cheap Asian carriers that carry on this practice, not really a reputation for American airlines to be tagged with



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11 Apr 2017, 2:29 am

androbot01 wrote:
kitesandtrainsandcats wrote:
My attitude is that unless United permanently quits overbooking, their apology is hypocrisy.
He's not the root of the problem, United is.

No kidding.

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They wanted his seat for one of their employees. So they physically attacked him. Is civilization breaking down or am I being overly dramatic?


Once he sues UA that guy is going to have more money than Scrooge McDuck.



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11 Apr 2017, 3:26 am

androbot01 wrote:
The Atlantic: The Deeper Scandal of That Brutal United Video The footage is shocking. So is the law.

The video is everywhere, so I won't link it. To my mind, the passenger was not identified as a security threat, therefore there was no justification to physically drag him off the plane. They wanted his seat because they had overbooked (which United apologized for) and they wanted the seat for one of their employees. The passenger who was forcibly removed did not want to take a later flight because he was a doctor and was scheduled to see patients.

I think United should be charged with assault.


I don't know the laws pertaining to physically removing someone from private premises...it seems as if police officers should be tasked with removing uncooperative people from airplanes.

If United needed the seats for airline personnel, then personally I think they should have reserved those seats for them ahead of time. Alternately, I see no reason why the airline can't keep a few small private jet to transport airline employees. I think this issue really comes down to poor management practices on United's part.



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11 Apr 2017, 4:20 am

The whole thing seems very bizarre to to me.



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