New International Axis of Evil

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Protesters have rallied against what they call “hate speech” by Argentina's President.
Human rights groups and trade unions were reacting to comments that Javier Milei made at the World Economic Forum in Davos.
Milieu attacked what he called wokeism, taking aim at women's rights, gay rights, DEI and anti-racism.
https://apnews.com/article/argentina-mi ... b2bafdc354
Following his speech an Argentine man set fire to a lesbian couple’s house in the Buenos Aires province town of Cañuelas on Wednesday, gutting the property.
https://buenosairesherald.com/society/c ... bic-speech

Argentine President Milei is part of a new axis of evil which includes his close personal friends, Donald trump (USA), Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni of Italy, President Orban of Hungary and Austrian far right chancellor Alexander Schallenberg and Poland's President Andrzej Duda.

What brings all of these evil dictators together is their "war on woke" and....of course, stemming the great replacement. this is the first great fascist axis since 1945

Trump is not a dictator.

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Not yet... Let's see how many more people bend over for him

A certain dictator by the name of Joseph Stalin appointed unqualified people into high positions like Profim Lysenko. Lysenko was for 2 decades the director of Genetics for the Academy of Sciences in 1940 until he was relieved of his duties in 1965 by Brezhnev. Lysenko was responsible for setting back agriculture in the Soviet Union for 25 years because of his belief in lamarkism. A wacky idea that if you dock a tail from a mouse then all the progeny will have no tails

Lysenko told Russian farmers to plant seeds very close together since, according to his "law of the life of species", plants from the same "class" never compete with one another. Lysenko played an active role in the famines that killed millions of Soviet people and his practices prolonged and exacerbated the food shortages.

Dictators typically appoint crazy people into positions of power who they know depend on them for survival so they can exert total control. trump is clearly doing that with about any doubt. He has a long list of badly judged appointments of people who should never have been in positions of power. Some of those people have the leverage to send America into oblivion far worse than Lysenko.

You can also add:

Nayib Bukele (El Salvador)
Yoweri Musaveni (Uganda)
MBS (Saudi Arabia)
Narendra Modi (India)
Vladimir Putin (Russia)

How much do we need to observe before we can call a duck a duck?

For all intents and purposes, the administration owns and controls X. Truth Social is state media now. Facebook/Insta/reelz are also most certainly being controlled by the current administration by proxy. The President signed an executive order to create a sovereign fund and what does he signal it will be used for? Infrastructure? Border walls? New military tech? Border patrol agents? Nope... TIKTOK.
So, when you look at what DoGE is doing, raiding government agencies to gain access to personnel and deposit records... in what world do you think they won't use access to that information to link people's social media presence to their personal information and the services they, and/or their families, may depend on the government for.
But you're totally right, Trump is not a dictator TODAY. But what difference does that make if he is one tomorrow? Remember that this is a man who, in 2016, said he could shoot someone in the streets of New York and face no consequences. That was a notion HE fabricated. His first thought while creating an analogy wasn't some petty or victimless crime, but apparently the murder of an American citizen, presumably for no other reason but to prove that he could. Lucky for him, the Supreme Court says he cannot be charged for a crime while in office, so I guess we should just all wait and see?

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Do you have an action you'd consider to be crossing the Rubicon? Like, something that you'd view as him going to far and that would force you to reconsider if that label is now applicable?

If you do, write it down and hold on to that note. If/when that action finally occurs, ask yourself if that action still feels as difficult to imagine, or if instead it actually just feels like the logical next step of what's been occurring.

I will consider him a dictator when if and when he has absolute and total and complete power and control over the American Government in the same way Stalin did in the Soviet Union or Castro in Cuba or Mao in China.Trump dpes not have absolute power right now but I will consider him a dictator if and when he gets absolute power.

I mean trump is a dictator in training

A lot of dictators historically (and currently) did not have absolute and total power. Like, it would be fair to describe Gorbachev as a dictator, but he had to perform a balancing act between different factions. Same would be true of post-Castro Cuba; Miguel Díaz-Canel is widely recognized as a dictator, but that doesn't mean his power is absolute.

A dictator with absolute power isn't the norm as far as dictatorships go.

I'm not saying that's not a valid indicator/milestone, only that it's one that would exclude a lot of legitimate dictators from qualifying as dictators.

To my eyes, Trump seems to already behave like a dictator and the main thing that keeps him from qualifying is that occasionally he's forced to follow the law instead of ruling by decree. Unfortunately him and his supporters are also dedicated to eroding rule of law, essentially weakening America's immune response to a potential dictatorship under them.

Oh okay.You have my word that I will consider Trump a dictator if and when he gets absolute power over America.I know you dont agree with that definition of dictator so lets agree to disagree on that point.

I think what we can agree is trump is enabling evil people...

That's fine, ultimately how exactly we define is dictatorship isn't a priority.

I suspect actions like confiscation of precious metals, or denial of religious liberties, or major changes to who can own guns would likely make you flip to labelling him a dictator or at least 'anti-freedom'.

Those would all represent pretty major rejections of the US constitution and of rule of law.

Personally I see a leader who rejects rule of law in favour of rule by decree as the #1 defining trait of a dictatorship, but we can agree to disagree on if that's diagnostic of dictatorship or merely a symptom.

I think Nayib Bukele is brilliant. He can iron out a his tactics better for sure and sort out the problems, but he's done a great job.

He can get rid of his arrest quota and that'll pretty much be all he'll need to fix.

Other than that, tens of thousands of gang members in prison with no release date, it's great and certainly improved human rights in El Salvador significantly

Only if we assume that everyone who's been imprisoned is guilty, otherwise you might have to concede a whole lot of people are being denied their human rights.

It would make me consider him more anti-freedom if he did those things.I already consider Trump to not be the most gun friendly president ever since his first presidency.I already consider him somewhat anti-freedom in some ways in the gun department based on his past actions.It would not make me consider him a dictator though.I am against Trump or any other president ruling by executive orders.