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I've been watching CNN from time to time, monitoring the situation. They already had a specialist on Anderson Cooper 360 who said Loughner should have an evaluation for schizophrenia, biopolar with psychosis, psychosis or autism. She actually included autism in that list.

There is some misunderstanding in some professional circles that autism means mental illness. Here where I live it's definitely separate and I am told I have no mental illness. True in the DD population compared to those without DD mental illness arises more often but I do not think it is an innate mental health condition but one which is developed at times. Had he had autism and with his age being what it is and awareness much different then 10 - 20 years ago he would have been diagnosed already. True people claiming to have ASD online making suggestive threats against pro-cure folks is not good socially. Also just like any group of people such as white, black, Christian, Muslim, Atheist and so on there are criminals within these groups. Many people with mental illness are not the ones committing crimes as well but rather are at times victims of crimes.

Nathan Young

What is wrong with Westboro?
Rep Giffords is pro choice so I can see why Westboro would protest. But why protest about the death of a 9 year old girl? Is it due to the fact that the girl was born on 9/11/2001?? I can't stand this "CULT" As a daughter of a Persian Gulf War Veteran, I'm livid at their protests at military funerals. They are cruel. They aren't Christians at all.

They changed their minds about picketing Christina Green's memorial but will the funeral of Judge John Roll. It's the first I've heard of Westboro ever backing down. Maybe they will temper their protests in the future?

Why protest against a Federal Judge? I don't understand.

You see, Luvs, the Westboro Baptist Church believes that every fatal tragedy in the US, or involving Americans, is God's judgment on us all for permitting homosexuals to live. It doesn't matter who's dead - they're going to show up with their signs and tell us that God killed these people as a lesson to us all. (Apparently God has really bad aim, and can't kill just the people He hates...)

He did not watch TV. He disliked the news. He didn’t listen to political radio. He didn’t take sides. He wasn’t on the left. He wasn’t on the right.

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/jar ... ews_b48040

Looks to me the left is trying to exploit murder for political gain.

Disgustingly, they only agreed to not protest the 9 year old girl's funeral after a local radio host offered them airtime on his show in exchange for not doing it. Just sick that the only way to shut these people up is to give them an even louder voice.

Its too bad the harm that would come from preventing these protests would probably, in the long term, outweigh the benefit. But anyone who would enhance a grieving family member's pain by protesting at a funeral no doubt has a special spot in hell reserved just for them.

And the right shouting about how the left are politicising this killing of a politician is somehow NOT exploiting that same murder for political gain? Yeah, ok. Nobody anywhere in a meeting has said "If we make a big fuss about the left trying to make gains off this killing, and how sh***y that makes them, then we will look like the good guys, despite our tendency to use militaristic hyperbole , and that ridiculously insensitive "cross-hairs" site. And that Palin is an idiot."

Damn. And here I was hoping the citizens of AZ had actually made a stand.

So, you're saying that it's wrong to defend yourself from false accusations? Maybe you could argue that it would have made the lefties that jumped the gun look even worse simply not dignify their allegations with a response, but even that would be a calculated decision. Any way you slice it, the vast majority of right wing spin on this hasn't concerned the event itself or trying to profit from it politically, but has been counter-spin to their adversaries trying to pin the blame on them. If they come out of it looking better, it won't be because they took advantage of a tragedy, but because their enemies miscalculated in their own attempts to do so.

Nope. But there are better, more dignified ways to respond that don't constitute "shouting back". And regardless of whether this shooting counts as political or not, its still the case that US politics in general overuses frighteningly militaristic and violent idiom. I can't help but be reminded of Obama "standing on the neck of BP."

They did a similar exchange after the Amish school girls were murdered in 2006 or 2007, I don't remember the year.

Sorry, but the right has every reason to be angry at the left in this case. Further the mainstream media is extremely lucky they didn't attack nonpublic figures by name. Otherwise there would be a slew of lawsuits, that they would in all reality lose.

From what I’ve seen, it seems pretty clear that this guy was mentally ill and if he was influenced by anyone it was conspiracy peddlers like Alex Jones or George Noory…

Still, if this had been political, the shooter could have come from the right or the left! Giffords was a third way moderate and NOBODY draws venom from zealots (right or left) like a moderate…

Just think about Obama’s tax compromise last month. His own party screamed bloody murder and threatened insurrection, and even as he defended his actions and vowed to “do what’s best for the American people,” republicans vowed to thwart him at every opportunity!

American politics have become completely insane.

Well, some Teabagger proclaimed at an event that gun laws must not be discussed at all until the furore dies down so to guarantee that nothing is done, and this caused one of the shooting victims to tear up a picture of that 'bagger and say "You're dead". Result - the shooting victim has been charged with a boatload of crimes and subjected to "involuntary commitment" in the mental institution. Remember, only the 'baggers can talk about killing people for after all, they're just watering the tree of liberty as Jefferson wants to defend the Constitution as the Second Amendment supposedly envisaged...