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I’m just reporting them just like they do us.
That is how wrong planet is now.

All Americans who are brainwashed by the "divide and conquer" agenda of the ruling class are deplorables. There! I've just insulted the left and the right. Come and get me!

White supremacists are deplorables.

Fear-mongers are deplorables.

Supporters of concentration camps for children are deplorables.

Those who spread ethnic division are deplorables.

Those who spread hate are deplorables.

Those who wear Confederate flags are deplorables.

Those who wear swastikas are deplorables.

Those who wear MAGAt caps are deplorables.

Trumpsters are deplorables.

And they are even more deplorable now than when Hillary made her comment over two years ago about "half" of Trumpsters being deplorables. The half that wasn't deplorable then, has abandoned Trump now, leaving behind the lowlife scum who were the intended target of her comment.

Nazis are deplorables.

Klansmen are deplorables.

Trumpkins are deplorables.

These are all generalizations.

[All] X are Y.

So, this post seems to run afoul of the rule that members are not allowed to make deragoatory generalizations of groups.

While I always thought this rule was weird, as it seems obvious to what the member is really saying, however, mods actively remove posts, and give warnings based on this rule.

This is a good challenge to the mods and to the rules of this site.

Last edited by LoveNotHate on 20 Nov 2018, 1:53 am, edited 1 time in total.

Seconded.

I asked the mods ...

viewtopic.php?t=237032&start=270

There is no such rule.

From the rules, the only mention of groups has to do with trying to promote some website:

This includes ... posts made to promote a website, group or product, particularly if made repeatedly and without other participation in the WP community (spamming).

source:

viewtopic.php?t=188712

There is nothing in the Terms of Use mentioning anything about your "rule".

https://wrongplanet.net/terms-of-use/

I'm not a moderator, but your attempt to suppress discussion here with your invented "rule" has been noted. And reported.

Likely, you don't see it, because you don't post on PPR that much.

However, many times I have seen mods say there is such a rule. Particularly, mod "Walrus".

Members will write, "Muslims are dangerous", "Liberals are dangerous" <----disallowed generalizations

Likely, the mods think "generalizations" = personal attacks.

I have had at least two posts removed because of this rule.

This isn't PPR, this is News and Current Events and the rules here state no such thing. Mods, please take note of LoveNotHate's abuse and attempts to suppress discussion here and take appropriate action to keep her from derailing discussions.

The rule is you can't make personal attacks.

When you make derogatory generalizations about a group, you're making a personal attack on every member of that group, and consequently, all the WP members who belong to that group.

You made a lot of derogatory generalizations about groups.

The mods don't permit those personal attacks.

You mean, like this?

viewtopic.php?f=13&t=237032&p=7852170#p7852170



Nope. It's a good challenge to you and your self-appointed would-be rule making authority. Don't confuse yourself with the mods, you're certainly not one of them, any more than I am.

Last edited by thoughtbeast on 20 Nov 2018, 2:15 am, edited 2 times in total.

How is it personal when it's not directed at any particular person?

Further, it's simply proper use of an accurate adjective.

Did you not see the definition of "deplorable," posted a couple pages ago?

For reference:

While in ppr it’s not limited to ppr it even mentions haven
Also news and current events has basically become ppr2
You and others have no issue reporting anyone who says liberals are ____ or democrats are ____
Well the rules go both ways.
PPR Forum Guidelines. Updated July 2012. August 2016 update follows below.

These guidelines are based on the site rules and terms of service and also on previous moderator precedence. The site is first and foremost a support site. Regarding moderation of members’ posts the site is treated as though it has three categories and each category is treated slightly differently:

1. PPR
This is a special forum. It is for debating and as such pretty much anything goes provided it stays within the site rules and the following guidelines. It is more or less freedom of speech. It doesn't matter if some people have obnoxious or ill-informed opinions regarding politics, religion or virtually anything else. People can debate and criticize any religion, atheism, political party, public figures etc. Just because some members may belong to a particular religion (or atheism) or political party, does not exclude it from debate. If people want to criticize atheism that is fine. Criticise Islam, Christianity, Buddhism, Paganism, Confucianism, Judaism, Satanism, Scientology etc all fine too.

Protected groups.
The site rules DO protect a few groups. So it is not acceptable to make posts that attack based on (a) gender, (b) race or (c) sexual orientation.
a) So creating sexist threads is not acceptable. It would be acceptable to discuss sexism itself however, for example regarding the glass ceiling in job promotions faced by many women or other social issues associated with sexism.
b) Creating threads attacking black people (or any other colour) is not acceptable. However, it is quite acceptable to discuss issues regarding racial tensions and racism itself. So there would be no problem debating why race riots occurred somewhere, but it would not be acceptable to say that a particular race smells bad or are stupid.
c) Creating threads referring to fa***ts or making offensive remarks about people who are gay, lesbian, queer, transgender etc is not acceptable. It is acceptable to debate sexuality itself and the reasons why some people are not heterosexual. It is also acceptable to talk about gay lifestyles and culture etc, though that is perhaps better done in the LGBT forum.

One final point on these protected groups. While threads can be made discussing "around" sexism, race and sexual orientation, if a member creates a significant number of threads about these topics it may start to look like he has an *agenda* i.e. is pushing the rules a bit too close to the edge attempting to provoke or belittle these groups; in which case moderators will intervene.

Other groups of people.
While it is acceptable to attack and debate beliefs (political, religious etc) it is not acceptable to make generalised attacks on the adherents of those beliefs. It is acceptable to say that Republicanism, Liberalism, Christianity, Islam are stupid but not acceptable to make generalised attacks saying that Republicans, Liberals, Christians or Muslims are morons. You could say that some of these people are stupid because of (reason) but not make generalised attacks on groups of people. Similarly you could not say "Christians are morons" or "Muslims are terrorists" or "People on welfare are bums". Confine your attacks to the beliefs and politics, not the people holding them. The one exception to this is public figures themselves – by the very nature of their roles they are personally open to criticism.

Personal attacks.
Posters must refrain from making personal attacks. Do not call people stupid or a***holes etc for not agreeing with you. You are allowed to think this - moderators aren't the thought police! Just don't express it in your posts! Attack the opinion not the poster. Personal attacks are a slightly fuzzy area because criticising someone's political or religious beliefs could be interpreted by some as a personal attack (but moderators do not consider it such) similarly it is easy to insinuate that someone is stupid for having various opinions but frankly the moderators don't have the time or inclination to wade through every post looking for sarcastic comments! Provided people don't get too out of hand this forum is given a wide scope for debate; which frankly is what the members themselves want here, not moderators stepping in all the time censoring their opinions.

2. The other forums (excluding PPR and The Haven)
Here the emphasis is on members sharing information, mutual support, general chit-chat and socialising. These forums are more heavily moderated than PPR and the rules applied more strictly. Moderators are the door-keepers to keep the party running smooth and any trouble makers kept in check. The same thread that can happily exist in PPR would not be allowed to exist in the Random forum for example. Hot topics of debate belong in PPR.

3. The Haven.
The Haven is protected more than any other forum on this site, so if someone is in distress and posts there it is for help and support from other members, not to debate with him/her about their religion or atheism. Trying to persuade an atheist to pray to God or Jesus for support is not appropriate in the Haven, similarly attacking a believers religious views in the Haven is not appropriate either.

*Sigh* Digging up my old posts to try and "win" a simple online discussion about the rules.

This isn't personal.

Besides, I've already "won".

How’s it personal to say women are___ if it’s not directed at any specific woman
How’s it personal to say gays are ___ if it’s not directed at any specific gay people?
How’s it personal to say democrats are___ if it’s not directed at any specific democrat
How’s it personal to say liberals are___ if it’s not directed at any specific liberal
How’s it personal to say Jews are___ if it’s not directed at any specific Jew
How’s it personal to say blacks are___ if it’s not directed at any specific black person

If you honestly can’t see why it’s wrong then how can you condem racists for doing the same thing? How can you report people for saying any of the above?
It’s hypocritical to demand people saying liberal this democrat that get warned then think it’s ok to say trump supporters are ___ or republicans are _____

I got warned for saying “liberals are ___”