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16 Jan 2019, 8:36 pm

I think mostly because they're rich, and think beyond economics.

Many California, New York people have phenomenal real estate wealth.


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16 Jan 2019, 8:59 pm

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They aren’t trying to escape a bad government they trying to come here to become rich or middle class to live the American dream. That’s not a valid reason for asylum. Or can I go to Canada to get a better life and claim asylum from democrats?


In fact, a great number are fleeing violent gang violence that has become epidemic in Latin America.


The thing that keeps registering with me is the complaint of how horrible and racist it was for trump to say there are violent dangerous people south of the border, and now that's what the people who complained are saying themselves. And I think the idea that all the bad people are staying there and only the good ones are trying to get in here, is unlikely.



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16 Jan 2019, 9:44 pm

They should care for ordinary americans .. quiet ones who worry more about their mortgage loans .. illegal immigrants are very much less important than a shrinking purse .



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16 Jan 2019, 10:53 pm

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The Republicans aren't going to have book burnings....or ban books.

Why do you follow what some (anonymous) nuts say on the Internet? People will say anything. They probably won't do what they say.


I can only hope they do what they say. We need a revolution to restore our country to its constitution. That or like Rome we need to fall.
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16 Jan 2019, 11:36 pm

EzraS wrote:
sly279 wrote:
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sly279 wrote:
They aren’t trying to escape a bad government they trying to come here to become rich or middle class to live the American dream. That’s not a valid reason for asylum. Or can I go to Canada to get a better life and claim asylum from democrats?


In fact, a great number are fleeing violent gang violence that has become epidemic in Latin America.


The thing that keeps registering with me is the complaint of how horrible and racist it was for trump to say there are violent dangerous people south of the border, and now that's what the people who complained are saying themselves. And I think the idea that all the bad people are staying there and only the good ones are trying to get in here, is unlikely.


trump isn't saying there are some bad people South of the border. He's painting them all with the same brush and saying they're all murders, gang members, rapists etc. There's a big difference.

Bad violent people are in power, mostly decent people are fleeing. How difficult is that to understand?


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16 Jan 2019, 11:40 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
The Republicans aren't going to have book burnings....or ban books.

Why do you follow what some (anonymous) nuts say on the Internet? People will say anything. They probably won't do what they say.


Republicans won't ban books.. they might just stop reading them entirely, though.

Hopefully sly is one of those people.. as he posted in another thread that if gun control laws are enacted in his state that it's time for homicide or suicide. That's nuts.

Like most people who make threats, he probably won't do what he says. But still.. it's a rather nutty idea and even nuttier if he's reinforcing it reading others' likeminded rants.


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16 Jan 2019, 11:58 pm

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Why do Conservatives care more about Illegal Immigrants than homeless citizens?

At least the Liberals are building shelters and trying to get them off the streets. The Conservative just arrest the homeless or use them for target practice and punching bags.


That sounds like pure propaganda. The usual liberals are angels and conservatives are demons.



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17 Jan 2019, 12:00 am

EzraS wrote:
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Why do Conservatives care more about Illegal Immigrants than homeless citizens?

At least the Liberals are building shelters and trying to get them off the streets. The Conservative just arrest the homeless or use them for target practice and punching bags.


That sounds like pure propaganda. The usual liberals are angels and conservatives are demons.


The reality is both are demons, that just choose the opinions that make them feel good and look good rather than have any standing.


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17 Jan 2019, 12:06 am

goldfish21 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
sly279 wrote:
They aren’t trying to escape a bad government they trying to come here to become rich or middle class to live the American dream. That’s not a valid reason for asylum. Or can I go to Canada to get a better life and claim asylum from democrats?


In fact, a great number are fleeing violent gang violence that has become epidemic in Latin America.


The thing that keeps registering with me is the complaint of how horrible and racist it was for trump to say there are violent dangerous people south of the border, and now that's what the people who complained are saying themselves. And I think the idea that all the bad people are staying there and only the good ones are trying to get in here, is unlikely.


trump isn't saying there are some bad people South of the border. He's painting them all with the same brush and saying they're all murders, gang members, rapists etc. There's a big difference.


He said they're sending us their worst people, their murderers and rapists etc. Liberals just don't understand, or pretend not to understand, the difference between "their" and "they're".

goldfish21 wrote:
Bad violent people are in power, mostly decent people are fleeing. How difficult is that to understand?


What I'm referring to is the talk of the streets being full of murdering raping gangs. I don't see any reason why those gang members wouldn't want to get in on the US gravy train.



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17 Jan 2019, 1:08 am

EzraS wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
sly279 wrote:
They aren’t trying to escape a bad government they trying to come here to become rich or middle class to live the American dream. That’s not a valid reason for asylum. Or can I go to Canada to get a better life and claim asylum from democrats?


In fact, a great number are fleeing violent gang violence that has become epidemic in Latin America.


The thing that keeps registering with me is the complaint of how horrible and racist it was for trump to say there are violent dangerous people south of the border, and now that's what the people who complained are saying themselves. And I think the idea that all the bad people are staying there and only the good ones are trying to get in here, is unlikely.


trump isn't saying there are some bad people South of the border. He's painting them all with the same brush and saying they're all murders, gang members, rapists etc. There's a big difference.


He said they're sending us their worst people, their murderers and rapists etc. Liberals just don't understand, or pretend not to understand, the difference between "their" and "they're".

goldfish21 wrote:
Bad violent people are in power, mostly decent people are fleeing. How difficult is that to understand?


What I'm referring to is the talk of the streets being full of murdering raping gangs. I don't see any reason why those gang members wouldn't want to get in on the US gravy train.


*scratches head* The guy has lied at least 7,500 times, publicly, since taking office. Soooo he said they’re sending their worst people and you believe it? Have a look at the interviews of migrants.. they are regular people trying to survive.

trump is not a credible source.


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17 Jan 2019, 2:40 am

goldfish21 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
sly279 wrote:
They aren’t trying to escape a bad government they trying to come here to become rich or middle class to live the American dream. That’s not a valid reason for asylum. Or can I go to Canada to get a better life and claim asylum from democrats?


In fact, a great number are fleeing violent gang violence that has become epidemic in Latin America.


The thing that keeps registering with me is the complaint of how horrible and racist it was for trump to say there are violent dangerous people south of the border, and now that's what the people who complained are saying themselves. And I think the idea that all the bad people are staying there and only the good ones are trying to get in here, is unlikely.


trump isn't saying there are some bad people South of the border. He's painting them all with the same brush and saying they're all murders, gang members, rapists etc. There's a big difference.


He said they're sending us their worst people, their murderers and rapists etc. Liberals just don't understand, or pretend not to understand, the difference between "their" and "they're".

goldfish21 wrote:
Bad violent people are in power, mostly decent people are fleeing. How difficult is that to understand?


What I'm referring to is the talk of the streets being full of murdering raping gangs. I don't see any reason why those gang members wouldn't want to get in on the US gravy train.


*scratches head* The guy has lied at least 7,500 times, publicly, since taking office.


According to the washington post no doubt.

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Soooo he said they’re sending their worst people and you believe it? Have a look at the interviews of migrants.. they are regular people trying to survive.

trump is not a credible source.


What I was adressing is according to liberals if trump or conservatives point how much crime there is south of the US border it's racist, and then they go on to talk about how much crime there is south of the US border. And all 15 million and counting illegals are invading the US just to pick lattuce out in the field that's all. Even though 20 years ago the Democrats wrere saying they're a serious threat:



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17 Jan 2019, 3:05 am

EzraS wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
sly279 wrote:
They aren’t trying to escape a bad government they trying to come here to become rich or middle class to live the American dream. That’s not a valid reason for asylum. Or can I go to Canada to get a better life and claim asylum from democrats?


In fact, a great number are fleeing violent gang violence that has become epidemic in Latin America.


The thing that keeps registering with me is the complaint of how horrible and racist it was for trump to say there are violent dangerous people south of the border, and now that's what the people who complained are saying themselves. And I think the idea that all the bad people are staying there and only the good ones are trying to get in here, is unlikely.


trump isn't saying there are some bad people South of the border. He's painting them all with the same brush and saying they're all murders, gang members, rapists etc. There's a big difference.


He said they're sending us their worst people, their murderers and rapists etc. Liberals just don't understand, or pretend not to understand, the difference between "their" and "they're".

goldfish21 wrote:
Bad violent people are in power, mostly decent people are fleeing. How difficult is that to understand?


What I'm referring to is the talk of the streets being full of murdering raping gangs. I don't see any reason why those gang members wouldn't want to get in on the US gravy train.


*scratches head* The guy has lied at least 7,500 times, publicly, since taking office.


According to the washington post no doubt.

goldfish21 wrote:
Soooo he said they’re sending their worst people and you believe it? Have a look at the interviews of migrants.. they are regular people trying to survive.

trump is not a credible source.


What I was adressing is according to liberals if trump or conservatives point how much crime there is south of the US border it's racist, and then they go on to talk about how much crime there is south of the US border. And all 15 million and counting illegals are invading the US just to pick lattuce out in the field that's all. Even though 20 years ago the Democrats wrere saying they're a serious threat:



Who cares who tracks it? Facts are facts, lies are lies.

No, they're not all picking lettuce. Some are cleaning, others building, etc. And a few are committing crimes - as is the nature of any population.. albeit, fewer than the American born citizens of your population.

It's been a problem no one wants to solve because businesses (small & large) and government all make money from these people.


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17 Jan 2019, 3:13 am

The United States has way too many illegal aliens who pose the kind of problems President Clinton laid out 20 years ago. The only difference between then and now is the problem has grown much worse.



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17 Jan 2019, 3:21 am

What are the problems?

They do work Americans won't.
They make money for people.
They pay more taxes than they cost because they can't use government services.


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17 Jan 2019, 4:04 am

Illegal immigrants in my state can’t pay taxes since they can’t legally work.
Illegal immigrants can not pay feder taxes since the can not legally work.



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17 Jan 2019, 4:41 am

goldfish21 wrote:
What are the problems?

They do work Americans won't.
They make money for people.
They pay more taxes than they cost because they can't use government services.


The problems are described by President Clinton in this video:

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And the the problems have grown since then.