Dear_one wrote:
When I was 12, I saw the famous Banff glacier and it's meltwater pond, Lake Louise, overlooked by a fine, stone-built railway hotel. At the time, nobody had ever heard of a glacier retreating steadily. Now, guests get a view of a rubble slope, and a distant bit of ice. The news is similar all over. As a Canadian, I know that if the water in the tank outside is staying frozen, average temperatures are going down, and if it is melting, they are going up.
I made conservation my vocation in '77 just to leave some oil for ordinary use a few generations on, and 35 years later, methane started bubbling out of the Arctic, putting the climate system into positive feedback for more warming, despite all the loss of ice tending to stabilize things. Collapse isn't "imminent" in a human time scale where we plan for next month, but it certainly is when thinking of decades. Every year, there are more people losing their homes to weather, and fewer places for them to run that have not also had a disaster.
Last century, it would have been enough to stop burning carbon as fast as possible, but the economy demanded business as usual. Now, we have to rearrange the whole economy to "un-burn" huge amounts of carbon, or the situation will get worse faster and faster.
People who are trying to save the climate must necessarily have some structure. Pointing out that we invite Greta to speak is just as normal as asking a celebrity to speak anywhere, and celebrities must be good communicators one way or another.
What do you think of my belief that fossil fuel vehicles and such are being replaced by 21st century tech anyways?
My great-great grandfather drove a combustion engine car. They are outdated.
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