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28 Mar 2020, 9:21 pm

EzraS wrote:
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According to this doctor Trump was right to ignore the warnings if he did so:

https://www.globalresearch.ca/swiss-doc ... 19/5707642

If CV turns out to not be the crisis it was built up to be, that will mean Trump's reported initial instincts were correct and make him a hero rather than a villain. And his opposers and detractors will have egg on their face. If what that Swiss doc says ends up being considered correct that is.


The opinion of one doctor, as opposed to all the virus professionals who say otherwise.
Not going to make Trump look like a hero. Just a narcissist devoid of empathy.


I meant if that doctor turns out to be right. Read what all the virus professionals claimed about the 2009 pandemic.
I mean a hero to people not as extremely partisan as you.


A partisan attitude *usually* limits perspective/objectivity.
I don't think anyone can reasonably argue against that.

BTW, I don't think Trump is a hero.
He is a politician.



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28 Mar 2020, 9:36 pm

Pepe wrote:
A partisan attitude *usually* limits perspective/objectivity.
I don't think anyone can reasonably argue against that.

BTW, I don't think Trump is a hero.
He is a politician.


The idea is that Trump is a villain for wanting to get people back to work because he does not take CV seriously enough.
If it turns out that he was right and it is was not serious enough to put millions out of work, voter confidence in Trump will skyrocket.



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28 Mar 2020, 10:39 pm

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Doctors can be idiots too.


Who would you confer with when you are sick? an anonymous source on the internet or a doctor?



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28 Mar 2020, 11:21 pm

EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
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According to this doctor Trump was right to ignore the warnings if he did so:

https://www.globalresearch.ca/swiss-doc ... 19/5707642

If CV turns out to not be the crisis it was built up to be, that will mean Trump's reported initial instincts were correct and make him a hero rather than a villain. And his opposers and detractors will have egg on their face. If what that Swiss doc says ends up being considered correct that is.


The opinion of one doctor, as opposed to all the virus professionals who say otherwise.
Not going to make Trump look like a hero. Just a narcissist devoid of empathy.


I meant if that doctor turns out to be right. Read what all the virus professionals claimed about the 2009 pandemic.
I mean a hero to people not as extremely partisan as you.


I aint gonna hold my breath.


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28 Mar 2020, 11:24 pm

Pepe wrote:
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Pepe wrote:
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EzraS wrote:
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Extreme partisanship skews the truth.


hen how is Trump at all right?


What?

Have you been drinking again?


Ha Ha Ha Ha!! !
that's so funny, it's...
But seriously, I think we all know I meant "Then," not "hen."
No, I'm just about to start drinking.
Please, answer the question.


No I got the dropped T part. I did not get the wording and especially what it had to do with what I said. Do you mean why do the right go with a republican president, just like the left go with a democrat president/candidate?


No, I mean that this particular Republican President can't do anything good for anyone else but himself and his spawn.


I heard Trump isn't taking a salary for being President.
Is this correct? :scratch:

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Is this Joe Bidin guy good?


For the most part: yes.


Bear in mind, Kraichgauer has heavy left-wing affiliations and detests Trump. :mrgreen:


Yes, that's true. But it's also true that he hasn't dissolved his business associations (leaving his evil sons in charge of them does not constitute a blind trust, despite what he says), as well as allowing his daughter to conduct business with countries like China through White House connections. So it's hardly the same case as when JFK had donated his paycheck.


But, but, but.
On *top* of what is happening with his family, assuming it is true, he could have *also* taken the presidential
salary, but, but, but, he didn't. :mrgreen:

I really don't know, but did Obama and Clinton refuse the salary? :wink:


He and his spawn are a bunch of grifters. There is more than enough documented evidence to back it up, provided by Mueller and congress.
Just because Trump is taking a salary hardly makes him a good guy in itself.
There's no "but, but, but" about it.


But, but, but.
*Not* taking the salary is a *good* thing, in my universe, in any case. :wink:
Maybe you inhabit another dimension. :mrgreen:


Not taking a salary doesn't mean sh*t, especially if Trump wants to emulate his betters.


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28 Mar 2020, 11:53 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Not taking a salary doesn't mean sh*t, especially if Trump wants to emulate his betters.


You are entitled to your opinion.
And so am I. :wink:



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29 Mar 2020, 2:42 am

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Not taking a salary doesn't mean sh*t, especially if Trump wants to emulate his betters.


You are entitled to your opinion.
And so am I. :wink:


But of course.


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29 Mar 2020, 8:52 pm

News Flash!
Trump is being *flexible* by extending the social distancing(?) rules.
"How dare he!" :mrgreen:



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29 Mar 2020, 9:31 pm

The way to predict a pandemic is to look for the doubling rate. How many days does it take the number of cases to double? The best way to do this is to test for infected people. But, it is also possible to estimate the doubling rate from the number of dead people. There are two problems with the latter method. It may take several to many doubling periods for people to die after being infected. There is also the uncertainty with comorbid causes of death that make the dead people number less accurate.

The number of cases is only important when there is a small number of cases, in which it may be possible to isolate everyone that may have come in contact with a disease. But we are obviously past that point.

At this point the only hope is to look for ways to lengthen the doubling rate. Or to miraculously create infrastructure to take care of the sick. Perhaps a combination of the two.

In the USA it is pretty clear that we don't have the infrastructure to handle a pandemic with resources we available right now.



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29 Mar 2020, 10:22 pm

Pepe wrote:
News Flash!
Trump is being *flexible* by extending the social distancing(?) rules.
"How dare he!" :mrgreen:

mebbe because vainglorious trumpy didn't wanna go down in history as presiding over 2 million preventable deaths.



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29 Mar 2020, 10:42 pm

So far no modern pandemic has come close to being as bad as predicted.



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30 Mar 2020, 1:20 am

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So far no modern pandemic has come close to being as bad as predicted.


Thank Christ!


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30 Mar 2020, 1:25 am

upwards of 200k casualties [per dr. fauci] is nothing to sneeze at.



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30 Mar 2020, 1:47 am

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upwards of 200k casualties [per dr. fauci] is nothing to sneeze at.


That is too true.


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30 Mar 2020, 2:11 am

200k is a worst case scenario prediction.

What does not have to be predicted is that there are normally 225,000 deaths per month in the United States.

2,700,000 per year.

200,000 C19 deaths would bring that to 2,900,000.


Not trying to make a point. Just running the numbers.



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30 Mar 2020, 7:39 am

auntblabby wrote:
Pepe wrote:
News Flash!
Trump is being *flexible* by extending the social distancing(?) rules.
"How dare he!" :mrgreen:

mebbe because vainglorious trumpy didn't wanna go down in history as presiding over 2 million preventable deaths.


Would you? 8O