5-year old aspie voted out of kindergarten by students

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Yes! Self defense is now considered wrong. This is BS in itself.

I agree that it's a good thing to know how to sue somebody, but not so much about overall distrust. There are good people out there, we just hear about all the nasty ones

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You know, Survivor isn't so bad - they know that they have a good chance of getting kicked off, and it's not like they're losing anything that they already have (other then diginity, but that's where the reality tv part comes in)
That kid had no way of predicting the outcome of this conversation (he was probably like me when I was young - so confused because of the seemingly sudden meaness when it was hinted at the entire year), and he lost his innocence. That should be illegal - to take somebody's innocence away

How were you being bullied? It's only self-defense if the bully actually punched you first, not if they threatened you or said something that made you go boo-hoo-hoo. You need to be more specific so we can determine whether you were actually justified in your behaviour.

the "eye for an eye" can cause ridiculously violent fights that started out over innocence. I sometimes sub in a school where 95% of the students live in housing projects, and every student gets a free lunch.

The most common statement I hear from the kids who get in trouble for fighting is "my mom/dad told me to hit anyone back who hits me."

One time the fight started because a boy accidentally bumped into a girl. She'd been taught to hit anyone who hits her, shove anyone who shoves her, etc. So she pushed him back. He'd been taught the same so he pushed her back. and so on and so on . it started out kind of gentle but got worse as each was getting angry that the other kept "provoking" them. and neither would stop until they were physically pulled apart. If not for that ridiculous "hit everyone who hits you, no matter what" belief there wouldn't have been a fight in the first place. There would have been an "I'm sorry that was an accident" "thats okay" situation

What exactly do you deem to be racist about the description "ugly coloured woman"? Is it linking ugly and coloured? Because people are quite capable of being ugly in any race or creed, in the same way as they can be beautiful. "Woman" is surely an acceptable term with which to describe a woman... Should he have been more euphemistic about his choice of word to describe a defining racial characteristic? Is she not coloured? Is she black? Or is that a verboten term? After all, if she cannot be black because it is racist, then I cannot be white, because that too must by definition be racist. Can it be said she is of african-american descent, (to pick a random example... )? Not really, without being sure of her lineage and ancestry. I would have thought it more offensive to allocate her an arbitrary race. After all, those of celtic lineage are never happy to be accused of being anglo-saxon in origin.

And so it becomes ever more ludicrous and pointlessly pc.

As for the other line.. using such a ploy would no doubt upset this woman as much as she has caused the child upset in turn. Not neccesarily high-brow, nor gaining the moral high ground.. but it would clearly demonstrate the fact to her. Was that not the point of the original post? Racism would be to suggest that we should do that to all "ugly coloured" teachers as a matter of course, because they are "lesser than us..." (or insert whatever rhetoric would be appropriate.. taller, shorter, more stupid.. any of the random foolish concepts people bandy about... would it not?

I can't either. I live in the South, which was the epicenter of Jim Crow and I've never heard someone use the word, "colored" in reference to someone like me.....in the 21st century. I thought that word died out along with "negro".

I also find it incomprehensible that someone would write me off and refuse to get to know me as a person just for having brown skin. Very sad, really.

That's the way racism works. We make an observation then generalize about the larger group.

I was bitten by a dog once. The dog was black. Black dogs bite disproportionally more than other dogs.

Real men don't hate. They don't whine or complain or blame others for their suffering.

They actually take responsibility for themselves and work to make their lives better. They also don't stereotype massive segments of the population.

Why do you have the expression "The Dirty South" in your avatar? I think the source of possibly a majority of modern racism is a perception of a group of people working to overturn the redneck way of life. I think lots of people resent being denied a choice. My racial point of view is MINE, I refuse to let anyone dictate it to me. My mom used the N bomb as regular conversation. Colored was the term she used in polite company. I understand that the N bomb is communicating that someone is not fit to be better than a slave. But "colored" communicates no such thing. Why should I be constantly modifying vocabulary just to be "hip" or let some pointy-headed "trend setter" dictate what I say?

I also see a perception that some racists see their identity being attacked. The approach the "diversity crowd" uses asks someone with a Klan history in their family to classify their ancestors as evil people. That's just asking too much.

If you hear a racist fuming about "affirmative action", you could either have a point of view as a colored person "I'm against affirmative action because I can win without special help" or you can ridicule him and call him names while he says to his buddy "see what they're like".

The television network "Turner South" has an interesting approach that might reduce some racism. They depict black Southerners participating in traditional Southern events.

That is the stupidest thing you've said on this topic so far.

Give me a break. I grew up in Jim Crow South. "Colored" was placed on signs designating which water fountains, bus station waiting rooms, restrooms, etc., etc., could be used by black people. "No coloreds" was not an infrequent sign. People could be arrested if caught drinking out of a "white person" drinking fountain if a cop had a twig up his butt that day and wanted a reason to harass a black person.

What an appalling story, that poor child...

I've been on the receiving end of something similar. I went to a university - one of the top ones for my field, I should add - and because of the AS and the way it worked, I ended up not coping with it very well. For this reason I wasn't really interacting with my classmates, I generally just didn't fit in, things weren't working but I was working on getting them better so they could work out and I could fix it. Then came the vote - turns out that you have to write a three-page review on every one of your peers, and if enough people say they don't like you then you have to leave the course.

Guess who got voted out?

I was 19 at the time, but it was no less traumatic than I imagine it would have been had I been that five year old kid in a room full of spiteful other five year old kids.

Life can be truly crap sometimes.

So how else do you communicate non-cooperation with people that want to keep changing our language? That's the intent in my case. The expression "Happy Holidays" just drives me NUTS!!



My bad public humiliating experience at the hands of a crappy teacher was in 8th grade. There was no voting, but it was just as bad.