It's dangerous to be black in Texas

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The first image has nothing to do with Sandra Bland. Nothing. I fail to see why you posted it.

Second, when someone is being arrested and resists arrest and assaults the officer, what do you expect? Do you expect the officer to just stand back and say "Go away"? All Bland had to do was to follow orders, but she didn't do that.

If you think that the orders are illegal the time to argue that is at court in front of the judge, not during the traffic stop.

In the US, if you are stopped and the officer tells you to get out of the car, then get out of the car. If you don't, the police can and will forcibly remove you from the car.

My guess is - not a damn thing.

Both images are of incidents that occurred in Texas. And again you are ducking the issue of appropriate force. In both these instances the officer reacted with anger and escalated the situation unnecessarily.

In the McKinney case, I didn't pay much attention to what happened. About all I heard was that some older kids were using a private community pool in a community that was not their own. They should have been ordered out and any who refused to leave should have been arrested.

In the Bland case, it is true that the situation ramped up far too quickly. The officer should have had more training on how to keep from escalating such situations. However, the fact remains that he did have the authority to order her out of the car and to use force to remove her from the car when she resisted. And, for what it's worth, the assault on an officer charge could have landed her in prison for several years. If she had behaved, she could have been on her way in minutes.

How can you know what should have happened, when you admit you don't know what happened in the first place?


The assaulting an officer charge is pathetic like a boy starting a fight with another and then hiding behind his mother.

He can't just order her out of her car. He has to have a reason to do so. He arrested her because she was resisting arrest? Really? That's not a reason. Because she didn't put out her cigarette? wow. So she gets a resisting arrest and assault charge. Guess what would have happened to those charges if she had lived through this ordeal? The DA would have tossed them as soon as he saw this video, if he was smart, or they would be tossed when the video went public, which might have taken a lot longer. Either way, she walks with a bad taste in her mouth and a hatred of all cops, and the only thing officers supervisor would have talked to him about is maybe toning it down a little so he can make the charges stick next time.

She died because she was black. He was tailgating her and when she moved out of the way, since of course she moved out of the way, he's a cop, he pulled her over. He would have pulled her over no matter what. It didn't matter what she did, he was going to pull her over and harass her. Since when did it become ok for the people who are supposed to keep us safe to treat us like this? There needs to be greater accountability of our police forces.

How can anyone trust police when they are such a mixed bag?

Actually, he can.



It happens all the time.

There were several potential charges:
1) Running the stop sign that seems to have been what got his attention in the first place. (I don't know why he didn't write a citation for this.)
2) Changing lanes without a signal. This is arguably the least likely charge to stick.
3) Resisting arrest.
4) Assault on a police officer.

The fourth charge is clearly the more serious. If convicted of that, she would have faced one or more years in a state prison.



I think that the prosecutor just charged her with the assault charge. He doens't have to charge all possible charges.



I think that the problem with the video was from public relations and showed that he needed more training. The officer did have the right, just as everyone has, to ask her to put out her cigarette if it is bothering them.

And he did have the right to order her to get out of the car.

And since she refused a lawful order, he did have the right to forcibly remove her from the car. Of course, it would likely have been better to wait for more officers.



Nonsense. He saw her run a stop sign and turned around to investigate. He probably should have stopped her for the stop sign instead of the changing lanes. She probably could have beaten the changing lanes charge. Of course, since he was writing a warning, whether or not she could have beaten the charge should have been immaterial.



There have been times that I have been stopped that if I had been black I might have been tempted to blame it on being black. Of course, since I'm not black, that wasn't the case.

Sure, it's not that uncommon for blacks to be pulled over for something someone else might have gotten away with. When I lived in Houston, I heard a number of personal stories from co-workers about such incidents. But I suspect there are many other cases where the stop had nothing to do with race. There is nothing to make me think that this was about her race.

The one who made "Driving While Black" the problem here was Bland. If she had behaved, she would have been on her way in minutes.

She started the fight, not him. His problem was that he let it get to him instead of trying to de-escalate.

I said that I did not pay much attention to it.

So I went back and looked.

It seemed one tenant of the community was holding a cookout. There was no permission granted to use the pool which is reserved to residents and up to two guests per resident. In spite of that, she advertised it as a pool party. Many of those who went to the cookout jumped over the fence to get to the pool or were passing an access card through the fence. They were not supposed to be in the pool at all.

Here is one account from someone who lives there:





Of course, the truth doesn't advance a leftist agenda.

So I watched the incident again.



She definitely spoke up to this officer. But he was equally antagonistic to her. I think people often let their emotions get the better of them. Police officers should be above that. He seemed to be bothered by a perceived disrespect. Her saying why she disputed the traffic charge caused him to ask her to put the cigarette out. She underestimated his lack of control. He should have been able to shrug it off.

I thought that he sounded quite polite and professional until she refused to put out the cigarette. His first asking of her to get out the car was still pretty polite but after that it went downhill fast. He could have done better and was definitely in need of more training.

I'm not saying the party didn't need to be broken up, I am saying that the young girl was treated with unnecessary force.
What leftist agenda?

I didn't pay enough attention to figure out why the police felt compelled to go after her. So what prompted the officer to force her to the ground instead of someone else? How could he have handled it differently?

There is footage of his behaviour prior to the take down. He was a bit over enthusiastic. It's unclear what she did to provoke his attack, but his reaction was excessive because of her size and strength.

I found the video and watched it. I agree that his actions were quite excessive. It should not have been handled that way at all.

Check out a new twist to this story - the mugshot photo taken of Sandra Bland!! Have you guys seen this? Just gets creepier and creepier!



This rumor has been debunked but it's still weird.