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21 Jan 2019, 4:39 am

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There is no good side here. Most involved in the incident were acting like as*holes. Some people were more as*hole then others but I consider it a waste of my time to try and figure out who is worse. Mr. Phillips chose a really dumb way to be a peacemaker. His fellow AIM protester was telling the kids to go back to Europe. If I was in that group after all the insults I would have interpreted Mr. Phillips actions as hostile. I did not hear "Build a Wall" but several people did. The smile of the student is what we call a "s**t eating grin". The student claimed the chaperones told the students to respond to the racist chants with the school anthem. WTF is wrong with them? The chaperones should have gotten the students out of there. Being from New York I often have run into groups like the Black Israelites or individuals that scream insults at passerby. I understand they are a hopeless waste of time and not worth the risk of me getting hurt.

They took the students to a political demonstration. You must understand that attending a political demonstration entails risk in 2019.

The provocations did bring out their bigoted side. The students were mocking Indian chants.

Considering the provocations expulsion is too severe a punishment. I would say forget about anymore "field trips" for the students or the chaperones.

It is a miracle the situation did not escalate beyond verbal assaults.

I agree children shouldn't be taken to protests.

There was two hours of footage and yet no footage of them chanting build a wall. There is footage of them defending gay people though.

He only claimed to be a peacemaker after the full footage came out.

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21 Jan 2019, 4:52 am

Leftists proclaiming something doesn't make it so. They seem to think they have the authority to decide whatever they want as being a rule of society. A lot of people probably were maga hats to show defiance agaist such presumptuous.

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21 Jan 2019, 5:04 am

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I have no idea what that means. If we have the majority, Democracy means we decide the direction of the country.

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21 Jan 2019, 5:34 am

The USA is a republic that protects minority from the majority.

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21 Jan 2019, 6:33 am

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I have no idea what that means. If we have the majority, Democracy means we decide the direction of the country.

Are they planning on making a law about what kinds of hats people are allowed to wear? Or that slogans like "make american great again" is illegal hate speech?

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21 Jan 2019, 6:38 am

Some of you people seriously need to get a grip of yourselves regarding the MAGA hat.

America used to legit be the greatest country on Earth, the most prosperous, at the cutting edge, looked up to by the whole World. It has a dark past too regarding racism, but it doesn't change that fact, America was the greatest despite that, not because of it. Imagine wanting your country to go back to being number one, back to the prosperity, back to being respected instead of scorned by the rest of the World.

I'm putting a link to this thread in the Trump Derangement Syndrome thread.

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21 Jan 2019, 6:45 am

EzraS wrote:

AspE wrote:

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I have no idea what that means. If we have the majority, Democracy means we decide the direction of the country.

Are they planning on making a law about what kinds of hats people are allowed to wear? Or that slogans like "make american great again" is illegal hate speech?

There was a Kentucky politician calling for just that.

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21 Jan 2019, 7:04 am

The kids are out of touch with Trump's affirmations .. he already made America great ...

His current slogan is KAG ....

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21 Jan 2019, 8:30 am

Some proper Trump derangement going on in this thread from both ends of the argument

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21 Jan 2019, 8:36 am

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I disagree. It's not possible to know exactly why every person who wears a Che t shirt wears the shirt. Che means more and different things to different people than just to "advocate murderous rage in the context of certain extreme political upheavals."

Totally irrelevant. Wearing a Hitler shirt means you advocate genocide and it doesn't matter if you just say he had a cool mustache.

Moving the goalposts. I'm not talking about Hitler who even a kindergartener knows was one of the worst genocidal maniacs in history; I'm using Che to apply what I think to be fnord's logical example.

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21 Jan 2019, 8:36 am

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It’s not a clan hood.
It’s trumps political slogan and he’s not a klans men.

” you can have free speech unless you disagree with us”

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No. I'm explaining to you, again, very patiently and slowly, that this is the common perception of what a MAGA hat represents. Full stop.

It may be a common perception but its not universal. You wouldn't attack an Indian person for wearing a Swastika symbol because you know its not Nazism. But you assume everyone wearing a MAGA hat is a racist, very prejudice.

Trump ran on racism, so everyone that supports him supports racism.

I'm willing to reconsider my original interpretation of events, as the media releases more video. I think everyone just needs to calm down, Trump is making everyone crazy.

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21 Jan 2019, 9:02 am

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It was a Catholic High School and they sent them to a march for life protest. For you non Americans it is a yearly protest held on the anniversary of the Supreme court decision legalizing abortion. Religious schools send kids to demonstrations, jewish schools send their students to Israel Independence Day parades etc.

Bottom line, the kids was acting like as*holes when they did their mock Indian chant, but they were let down by adults behaving badly at every step of the way.

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21 Jan 2019, 9:25 am

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The kids say they were joining in and watching it I believe them it took them a while to see his bad intentions. I don't think they were acting like as*holes at all. I do find it racist that white children are being held to a higher standard than a non white adult.

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21 Jan 2019, 9:32 am

They were all acting like as*holes.

The kids should be strongly counseled and forced to watch film accounts of the Holocaust. And read accounts of the Jim Crow South.

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21 Jan 2019, 9:42 am

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They were all acting like as*holes.

The kids should be strongly counseled and forced to watch film accounts of the Holocaust. And read accounts of the Jim Crow South.

If an old white guy walked into a crowd of native American teens and got right in ones face, the kid just stood there smiling whilst the old guy played cowboy songs and the other teens joined in with the cowboy songs, would you feel the same?

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21 Jan 2019, 9:47 am

Yeah. I would say they would acting like as*holes, too. Of course they are.

There’s no history of oppression by Native Americans towards whites. They got pissed off at the Europeans for taking their land and killing them systematically. Note that I don’t blame the Europeans for spreading diseases among the Native Americans.

People have to learn to live together.

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