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Strapples
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30 Apr 2012, 8:02 am
That said, I think the parents in this case may be f****.
Most folks with CP are fully capable of communicating (if not talking). Someone should have asked the kid. Someone should go do that. NOW.
Sadly enough BuyerBeware she is DEAD now...
PISSED ME OFF THAT THE DNR STOOD IN COURT TO BEGIN WITH
This is why I propose the following FEDERAL LAW
VOID on All DNRs for people under or over 18 with a Non Degenerative Disease Who did not sign the DNR themselves <This will render all current DNRs for a person under or over 18 who did not sign the DNR themselves Null and VOID>
DNRs for people under 18 with a DEGENERATIVE or otherwise TERMINAL illness will be allowed per current state laws
DNRs for adults who did not sign the DNR but are over 70 shall continue and not be covered by the blanket ban
DNRs for Special Needs Adults who have a severe communication disability but are Non Degenerative or Terminal will require a small jury of 4 people and require a 3/4ths supermajority vote to enact the DNR. none of the people may be physicians or doctors or lawyers.
DNRs for Special Needs Children whom are Not Degenerative or Terminal will require a Grand Jury Hearing involving a panel of 12 impartial people and a 3/4ths supermajority vote required to enact the DNR. none of the people may be physicians or doctors or lawyers.
If for any reason a DNR fails to pass (reach the vote threshold) it may not be brought forth to the courts again until the childs 18th birthday or 1 year, whichever is longer. Exemptions are allowed if the patient becomes terminal or degenerative, at this point the DNR is to proceed with current state statutes.
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03 May 2012, 3:06 pm
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03 May 2012, 5:17 pm
totally on your side TheWanderer. do you like my idea for the new federal law which would be named the Katie Jones Act
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03 May 2012, 9:50 pm
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03 May 2012, 10:01 pm
Of course I like it. I have no idea why this isn't a law already, but it ought to be. I'd vote for anybody who backed this, if it came to that.
I like the line in your signature about Autism Speaks, by the way. Before I figured out I was on the spectrum, I came across one of their videos, where this blonde woman was saying - right in front of her daughter - that if she didn't have a "normal" daughter, too, she would have packed her autistic daughter into the car and driven off a bridge. And she encouraged her daughter to say how she hated her sister... I remember that video because it really shook me up; it was like an updated Nazi propaganda film designed to show how horrible and useless the people were they wanted to kill. It's all the same crap, really. Everybody is human. Everybody should have human rights. Anyone or anything that opposes that, I'm opposed to.
Autism Speaks if they COULD would start a whole EUGENIC movement and start GASSING us to death... NAZI CONCENTRATION CAMP STYLE. HITLER STYLE.. I swear Autism Speaks is THE WORST.
Now as far as this law I am going to push it up to my senators and congress. hopefully there it can become a bill.
maybe we should start an online petition to garner figure 50,000 signatures then send it off to congress, then that will definitely gain traction and media attention.
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03 May 2012, 11:07 pm
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03 May 2012, 11:10 pm
this is why i propose a bill for congress
Katie Jones Act
VOID on All DNRs for people under or over 18 with a Non Degenerative Disease Who did not sign the DNR themselves <This will render all current DNRs for a person under or over 18 who did not sign the DNR themselves Null and VOID Federally>
DNRs for people under 18 with a DEGENERATIVE or otherwise TERMINAL illness will be allowed per current state laws
DNRs for adults who did not sign the DNR but are over 70 shall continue and not be covered by the blanket ban
DNRs for Special Needs Adults who have a severe communication disability but are Non Degenerative or Terminal will require a small jury of 4 people and require a 3/4ths supermajority vote to enact the DNR. none of the people may be physicians or doctors or lawyers.
DNRs for Special Needs Children whom are Not Degenerative or Terminal will require a Grand Jury Hearing involving a panel of 12 impartial people and a 3/4ths supermajority vote required to enact the DNR. none of the people may be physicians or doctors or lawyers.
If for any reason a DNR fails to pass (reach the vote threshold) it may not be brought forth to the courts again until the childs 18th birthday or 1 year, whichever is longer. Exemptions are allowed if the patient becomes terminal or degenerative, at this point the DNR is to proceed with current state statutes.
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03 May 2012, 11:40 pm
http://www.change.org/petitions/the-pre ... -on-dnr-s#
calling on the House of Reps and Senate And president to change the laws!
Sign, share, GO VIRAL
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04 May 2012, 11:55 am
Signed. 
As for Autism Speaks, while I agree with you on what they'd do if they dared, I think they've learned people won't accept anything that open. So they're trying different, subtler tactics. If you haven't already, I encourage you to read War Against the Weak, by Edwin Black. It's a history of the eugenics movement in the United States, and it gives some hint how they went underground after World War Two, although it glosses over just how many leaders of Planned Parenthood had ties to the American Eugenics Society. Sadly, it also reveals how intertwined with eugenics even a seemingly benign pastime such as genealogy is. And I say "is" and not "was" advisedly. I was a professional genealogist, a member of the Association of Professional Genealogists. When I learned of these links, I suggested on their mailing list a change to the Code of Ethics barring any of us from taking part in such atrocities, as well as stripping those genealogists in the past who had taken part of any honours they had been given. In response, I was ridiculed, attacked, told it was "unimportant"... And I came to realise that at least some of the members were working on such things, which are now given the reassuring but misleading label of "health studies".
My point is, eugenics is still out there. They are still trying to kill everyone they see as "unfit". They are just doing it more quietly and subtly, and by doing so, they've managed to convince a lot of otherwise decent people who would be horrified if they confronted the reality directly.
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04 May 2012, 12:49 pm
As for Autism Speaks, while I agree with you on what they'd do if they dared, I think they've learned people won't accept anything that open. So they're trying different, subtler tactics. If you haven't already, I encourage you to read War Against the Weak, by Edwin Black. It's a history of the eugenics movement in the United States, and it gives some hint how they went underground after World War Two, although it glosses over just how many leaders of Planned Parenthood had ties to the American Eugenics Society. Sadly, it also reveals how intertwined with eugenics even a seemingly benign pastime such as genealogy is. And I say "is" and not "was" advisedly. I was a professional genealogist, a member of the Association of Professional Genealogists. When I learned of these links, I suggested on their mailing list a change to the Code of Ethics barring any of us from taking part in such atrocities, as well as stripping those genealogists in the past who had taken part of any honours they had been given. In response, I was ridiculed, attacked, told it was "unimportant"... And I came to realise that at least some of the members were working on such things, which are now given the reassuring but misleading label of "health studies".
My point is, eugenics is still out there. They are still trying to kill everyone they see as "unfit". They are just doing it more quietly and subtly, and by doing so, they've managed to convince a lot of otherwise decent people who would be horrified if they confronted the reality directly.
Eugenics makes me sick, now spread the word of this thread and the petion all over the internet. this is something that needs to go viral.
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04 May 2012, 12:52 pm
I assume you're obviously very much aware of the very strong link to Nazism and eugenics, although eugenics was not actually a creation of Nazism? I mention this because you're Jewish.
Needless to say, I very much support you in your quest for more reasons than one.
