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27 Nov 2023, 10:00 pm

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Likud's coalition partners include several openly theocratic parties like Religious Zionist Party, Otzma Yehudit and Noam. Most of them are openly embrace Jewish supremacism as well. Likud and the coalition propping them up are people who deserve to be condemned based on what they stand for.

So yeah, I compare bloodthirsty fascists to bloodthirsty fascists.

Extremism is extremism, ethnonationalism that puports to make Jews > everyone else is self-evidently wrong.

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28 Nov 2023, 3:38 pm

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28 Nov 2023, 3:41 pm

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Netanyahu reportedly makes his case of survival to Likud members by promising to stand up to the Biden admin on the day after war:
“I’m the only one who will prevent a Palestinian state. The U.S. was against a ground operation…”

https://twitter.com/jacobkornbluh/statu ... 9546813629

So, based on Bibi's own words, anyone who insists Israel isn't planning on doing everything they can to prevent a Palestinian state from forming because they intend on annexing that territory and displacing it's inhabitants.

People who try to pretend otherwise can be dismissed as dishonest actors incapable of engaging in good faith.

I think we can all agree he needs to be removed. But like Putin it's up to his people to remove him.

Don't worry. He probably won't be able to remain in power once the war is over.

That’s a big incentive why he may want to extend the war for every long time; and maybe even in other places.

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28 Nov 2023, 5:55 pm

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Extremism is extremism, ethnonationalism that puports to make Jews > everyone else is self-evidently wrong.

So why do you act like there's a problem with me calling it what it is? You don't get to have it both ways.

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28 Nov 2023, 9:01 pm

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So why do you act like there's a problem with me calling it what it is? You don't get to have it both ways.

There are levels to this type of leadership/governance.The proof is in the policies, laws and punitive actions taken in response to perceived breaches. Quite clearly you are identifying the response of the IDF as equivalent to Milsovic's genocide of Bosnian muslims or Mussolini's attempts at genocidal retribution on unarmed Ethiopians. I personally wouldn't put the response against the Palestinians in the same bracket. The Palestinian-Israeli conflict is more like the Sri Lankan insurgency involving Tamils Vs Sinhalese which is a protracted civil conflict.

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28 Nov 2023, 11:27 pm

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So why do you act like there's a problem with me calling it what it is? You don't get to have it both ways.

All of those except Ethiopia were protracted civil conflicts where ethnic cleansing occurred. The Tamil people in Sri Lanka were treated just as miserably as any other group you might name in any other place you might name. Their cause was both just and justifiable.

I'm not sure why you're willing to be more tolerant of Palestinians or Tamils being brutalized and ethnically cleansed compared to some other examples.

Ethiopia represents a colonizer engaging in similar behaviour to the locals, which many would say makes it the most comparable to Israel's actions on not-Israeli territory.

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29 Nov 2023, 12:41 am

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I'm not sure why you're willing to be more tolerant of Palestinians or Tamils being brutalized and ethnically cleansed compared to some other examples.

They are both protracted conflicts where the Palestinian separatist movements (PLO HAMAS) and Tamil separatist movement (Tamil Tigers) became proscribed as terrorist groups and the governments of Israel and Sri Lanka were seen as fighting a "just" civil war to protect their sovereignty, Ironically (just to complicate things) many countries who threw their support for the PLO and the Palestinian movement were also supporters of the Sri Lankan government (e.g. Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, China)

Little known fact, the founders of the liberation tigers of Tamil Elam were trained by the PLO in the 1970s.

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29 Nov 2023, 8:23 am

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This also happens in the USA , this statement is based on personal experience . On even much lower scales , of local Sheriffs in Outter areas of Calif.In regards to local events and people. He was lucky to get away with his life.
(re; the fellow being interveiwed in the video.) Am seriously surprised the events that ocurred with hom, were not more thoroughly covered up . :skull:

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29 Nov 2023, 8:55 am

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Little known fact, the founders of the liberation tigers of Tamil Elam were trained by the PLO in the 1970s.

Took history of terrorism courses in graduate school (I have a master's degree in history) and can confirm. The Tamil Tigers popularized the use of suicide vests among terrorist groups,

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29 Nov 2023, 10:35 am

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Jono wrote:

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I think we can all agree he needs to be removed. But like Putin it's up to his people to remove him.

Don't worry. He probably won't be able to remain in power once the war is over.

That’s a big incentive why he may want to extend the war for every long time; and maybe even in other places.

Apparently, Netanyahu's right-wing coalition partners are the ones who are wanting to end the current cease-fire and are getting impatient. I think that the war will continue eventually after the current truce is over but I don't think that it can continue indefinitely after that. If destroying Hamas was their military objective, then they're almost doomed already, the fact that Hamas keeps wanting to extend the truce seems to indicate to me that they're desperate.

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29 Nov 2023, 11:54 am

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29 Nov 2023, 3:14 pm

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If destroying Hamas was their military objective, then they're almost doomed already, the fact that Hamas keeps wanting to extend the truce seems to indicate to me that they're desperate.

A protracted conflict will also lead to more young Israelis in the IDF getting killed on the frontlines. As the numbers rack up (on both sides) Likud will want to do anything to wrap up hostage negotiations. They can then turn around the to Israeli people and claim it was their strong arm tactics that made HAMAS negotiate (although we accept the role of gulf states mediating to bring this to an end).

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29 Nov 2023, 3:25 pm

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The Tamil Tigers popularized the use of suicide vests among terrorist groups,

Very famously the former prime minister of India, Rajiv Gandhi, was assassinated by a young Tamil girl strapped with explosives who in the process also blew herself up. The Indian media shocked that a young girl would commit an act for the Tigers, It turns out she was a former victim of assault from members of the Indian peace keeping force (IPKF).

As with HAMAS the Tigers used local villages as human shields which meant 10s of thousands of Tamil civilians were murdered by both the IPKF and the Sri Lankan army. The Tamils are a little like the Kurds in the middle east, They are stateless and have no nation/home. Both India and Sri Lanka tried to eradicate them. In the middle east the Kurds were also subject to civil war from Syria, Iraq and Turkey.

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29 Nov 2023, 3:37 pm

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The Tamil Tigers popularized the use of suicide vests among terrorist groups,

Also reminds me of the Rohingyas in Myanmar/Burma. I first found out about them, of all places, while driving behind a Rohingya Cultural Center of Chicago van crossing the Rainbow Bridge back into the US from Canada.

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29 Nov 2023, 3:43 pm

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The Tamil Tigers popularized the use of suicide vests among terrorist groups,

Yes, although the Rohingya are bengali speaking and their kinsmen have a nation (Bangladesh).

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