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12 Nov 2012, 9:24 am

You are welcome... I don't believe in the whole thing... but, for the sake of argument, let's assume that paradigm is accurate... well... why do people forget the major things? There are a list of traits that accompany the AC... and they always forget ones like

1) His arrival on the world scene will be accompanied by miracles, signs and wonders [2 Thess 2:9]
2) He will openly claim to be God [2 Thessalonians 2:4]
3) He will have "no regard for the desire of women": He will either be asexual or homosexual
[Dan 11:37]
4) He will put an end to Jewish sacrifice and offerings after 3 ½ years and will set up an abomination to God in the Temple [Daniel 9:27, Matthew 24:15]
5) He will oppress the saints and be successful for 3 ½ years [Daniel 7:25; Rev 13:7]
6) He will blaspheme God, [Daniel 7:25; 11:36; Rev 13:5] slandering His Name, dwelling place, and departed Christians and Old Testament saints [Rev 13:6]

Without these (very telling) details... no antichrist... Either way... untruth needs to be confronted with truth.


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12 Nov 2012, 2:11 pm

Feralucce wrote:
You are welcome... I don't believe in the whole thing... but, for the sake of argument, let's assume that paradigm is accurate... well... why do people forget the major things? There are a list of traits that accompany the AC... and they always forget ones like

1) His arrival on the world scene will be accompanied by miracles, signs and wonders [2 Thess 2:9]
2) He will openly claim to be God [2 Thessalonians 2:4]
3) He will have "no regard for the desire of women": He will either be asexual or homosexual
[Dan 11:37]
4) He will put an end to Jewish sacrifice and offerings after 3 ½ years and will set up an abomination to God in the Temple [Daniel 9:27, Matthew 24:15]
5) He will oppress the saints and be successful for 3 ½ years [Daniel 7:25; Rev 13:7]
6) He will blaspheme God, [Daniel 7:25; 11:36; Rev 13:5] slandering His Name, dwelling place, and departed Christians and Old Testament saints [Rev 13:6]

Without these (very telling) details... no antichrist... Either way... untruth needs to be confronted with truth.


As I had stated earlier in the thread, the Beast or Anti-Christ was probably a reference to the Roman Emperor Nero who had contemporaneously persecuted the early church in the first century, and not some literal son of the devil in the future. This is the view of the most responsible mainline Christian theologians.

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12 Nov 2012, 8:43 pm

According the late Jean Dixon's predicitons in the eighties the antichrist was born in 1962 ( obama b-day in 1961 is actually kinda close to that). But would start being well known and would start gathering followers in 1995.

No one heard of Obama until well into the 2000's.

I just learned that from a used video tape I bought in a second hand store.

If you wann good laugh- just buy tapes of of old cable TV documentaries about prophecy in which they exrapolate the ancient prophecies into the near futures after the said documentaries were made.

This one, made for the The Learning Channel and narrated by David McCallum, said that the ancients predicted that california would fall into the sea by the year 2000.

Another documentary Ive seen on video- Orson Welles narrating about Nostrodamus- back in the early eighties- heavily implied that nostrodamus predicted that Ted Kennedy would run and win the presidency in the nineties, and (again) that California would fall into the sea by the year 2000.



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12 Nov 2012, 9:38 pm

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According the late Jean Dixon's predicitons in the eighties the antichrist was born in 1962 ( obama b-day in 1961 is actually kinda close to that). But would start being well known and would start gathering followers in 1995.

No one heard of Obama until well into the 2000's.

I just learned that from a used video tape I bought in a second hand store.

If you wann good laugh- just buy tapes of of old cable TV documentaries about prophecy in which they exrapolate the ancient prophecies into the near futures after the said documentaries were made.

This one, made for the The Learning Channel and narrated by David McCallum, said that the ancients predicted that california would fall into the sea by the year 2000.

Another documentary Ive seen on video- Orson Welles narrating about Nostrodamus- back in the early eighties- heavily implied that nostrodamus predicted that Ted Kennedy would run and win the presidency in the nineties, and (again) that California would fall into the sea by the year 2000.


I really must have missed the Teddy Kennedy election, and California sliding into the sea.

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13 Nov 2012, 12:11 am

Obama isn't slick enough to be the Antichrist. Whoever is the Antichrist will deceive practically the whole world. Just my take on it.



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18 Nov 2012, 1:15 pm

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dyingofpoetry wrote:
Okay, you're a non-troll with too much free time on your hands.


Actually, I think he's watched too much "Da Vinchi Code..."


As opposed to watching 10-14 hours of Fox "News" every day?



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18 Nov 2012, 4:31 pm

He is not my "Messiah" a true Anti-Christ is the one to come.

Whom Theistic Satanists like me will gladly serve.


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18 Nov 2012, 4:43 pm

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He is not my "Messiah" a true Anti-Christ is the one to come.

Whom Theistic Satanists like me will gladly serve.


Again, as I've stated earlier, the most responsible Biblical scholars maintain the Beast or Anti-Christ was actually a reference to the Roman emperor Nero (and possibly Diocletian) who had persecuted the early Christians, as well as Caligula, who had had a statue of himself placed in the Temple of Jerusalem to be worshiped. It's just evangelical nonsense that the apocryphal imagery in Revelations was a prophecy of the future. Most of the things had already occurred by the time the book had been written. Sorry.

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18 Nov 2012, 4:53 pm

Satanist, if you truly worship the figure of Lucifer/Satan in the Christian religion, you're stupid. I say this because in that religion, it's clearly spelled out that the best his followers can hope for is to maybe get a little temporal power before facing a rather unpleasant rest of eternity.

If not, then you're using the name "Satanist" in an inappropriate fashion, and still merit no serious consideration. Either way, I believe you can be safely dismissed...


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18 Nov 2012, 8:54 pm

Some one on the internet is wrong!

Christ we get from cristos, the highest stone on a column,

Hence, Anti Christ, is the other end, The Base, AKA, Osama Bin Lauden, who was struck down by a head wound by flying Seals.

A short time later while flying the same team had their chopper shot down, and accended.

So much for the Rapture. The rest are left behind, the economy tanks, the drought spreads, it is getting hotter.

These are the Post End Times, when all of human folly is being exposed.

The false priests of the Federal Reserve speak their magic spells and nothing happens. The Almighty Dollar is exposed as just a piece of paper.

In the choice between living in harmony within Creation, or killing it, skinning it, cutting it down, stabbing it with a plow, and trading it for bits of paper, the people chose to worship the false god.

So now we have all of eturnity to knash our teeth, and curse our greed for taking an Adjustable Rate Mortage, and a lot of credit card debt.

It was all before you, the sinners in hell were not dead, still had bodies, and continue to be poked with tridents by Red devils.

The head red devil just said in a mocking voice, we can pospone dealing with our debt, and give out more tax cuts, and cut services, while building the Defense Industry. No said Obama, taxes must go up for the rich, even if we have to throw ourselves over that cliff, pointing to the near future, and raise taxes and cut services to everyone.

You will have to do that without borrowing any more money, said the Red Devil, for you have reached the limit of hell.

The point of hell is not that the devils torture you for all eturnity, though they like to, it is that you will torture yourself, and your fellow sinners. Those with children will torture them. By their acts they will damn the future, poison the joy, and kill all hope.

Gone are the joys of youth, the hope of a wonderful future, for the sins of the fathers are visited on the second and third generation, and they will curse your name. They will be enslaved to serve and support those who worshipped false gods.

To increase their suffering, we have it all on film, where they can watch people live in nice houses, wear clothes, eat well, and put it on the card.

Born into debt servitude, for things that no longer exist, they will labor in vein, and pass the debt on to their children.

They will curse the Spawn of War Generation that seeing they could not take it with them, left less than nothing behind.

They will drink dirty water and eat bitter roots, and you had better hope there is not an afterlife, for they will be coming soon.

The Hell Spawned Generation is who you have to care for you in your old age. As ye sow, so shall ye reep. Sow the wind, reep the whorlwind.

Is it just me, or is it getting hot in here?



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19 Nov 2012, 12:18 am

DeaconBlues wrote:
Satanist, if you truly worship the figure of Lucifer/Satan in the Christian religion, you're stupid. I say this because in that religion, it's clearly spelled out that the best his followers can hope for is to maybe get a little temporal power before facing a rather unpleasant rest of eternity.

If not, then you're using the name "Satanist" in an inappropriate fashion, and still merit no serious consideration. Either way, I believe you can be safely dismissed...


I am a theistic Satanist who whorships the horn god a pagan idol not the devil.


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19 Nov 2012, 1:24 am

Ah, ok, making it up as you go then. (Neither the Horned God nor Pan, the source of the popular depictions of Satan, were "evil" - the Horned God was the male counterpart of the Triple Goddess, and Pan was a nature god.)

Safely dismissed, then. No problem.


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19 Nov 2012, 2:51 am

Didn't make it up. Plus I don't worship evil.


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19 Nov 2012, 2:57 am

When I say the Horn God I mean

Baphomet.


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19 Nov 2012, 3:36 am

I was led to understand that Baphomet was the Medieval European way of saying Mohamed during the Crusades. That was why the Templars were forced to give false confessions under torture that they had worshiped Baphomet - because they were admitting to worshiping the founder of their enemy religion.

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19 Nov 2012, 4:33 am

So... When is the end of the world? Is it sometime next month? I'm ready for a long rest. :P


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