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16 Aug 2019, 10:56 pm

Even if the autopsy was correct and he really did commit suicide by hanging and there really is no conspiracy here, I believe that it behooves a person to realize that in general and most often in life, we are being lied to. In my mind, it's without a doubt.



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17 Aug 2019, 12:22 pm

cororner has definatively ruled it a suicide by hanging


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17 Aug 2019, 1:33 pm

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cororner has definatively ruled it a suicide by hanging


Well shucks, that solves it then. I was so waiting to hear that he'd been murdered by ninjas. The coroner's verdict can be ignored as they were going to say that anyway.


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17 Aug 2019, 2:09 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
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cororner has definatively ruled it a suicide by hanging


Well shucks, that solves it then. I was so waiting to hear that he'd been murdered by ninjas. The coroner's verdict can be ignored as they were going to say that anyway.
there is no reason to believe the coroner is corupt the DOJ is investigating this suicide and they have found no reason to suspect foul play at this time


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17 Aug 2019, 5:20 pm

:lol:


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17 Aug 2019, 5:21 pm

Same with all the 'suicides' in Arkansas.


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17 Aug 2019, 6:48 pm

Magna wrote:
Even if the autopsy was correct and he really did commit suicide by hanging and there really is no conspiracy here, I believe that it behooves a person to realize that in general and most often in life, we are being lied to. In my mind, it's without a doubt.


I agree. I did spend much of my life thinking that other people are as committed to truth telling as I am and would never lie. I have since found out that most NTs lie all the time. Then I realized that the "knowledge" I have from the outside has to all be taken with a grain of salt.

Spending some time in third world countries and in the neighborhoods here, I have realized there is a lot of routine lying. It is a cultural thing. If it isn't your business, I just going to lie and give you the answer you want to hear. It took me a while to adjust to it.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if someone "suicided" him. At the same time, it is entirely reasonable, based on what I know about jails, that it was suicide.


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17 Aug 2019, 7:03 pm

My cousin's husband works in a UK jail and he says that people on suicide watch have micro sheets that rip before you can apply the pressure needed to choke yourself with them.



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18 Aug 2019, 10:41 am

Do people who are trying to secretly kill themselves "shriek and yell" when doing so?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.indepe ... html%3famp


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20 Aug 2019, 8:44 am

Epstein signed a will two days before he killed himself


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20 Aug 2019, 11:32 am

If he did it wouldn't be surprising given he would have known there was people trying to kill him. There were multiple bones broken in his neck and he was heard screaming. It's was an 8 feet high cell and he was around 6 feet. He didn't hang himself.


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20 Aug 2019, 11:32 am

Lot of info on the subject here

https://www.ancreport.com/podcast/the-e ... n-tps-496/


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20 Aug 2019, 12:27 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
If he did it wouldn't be surprising given he would have known there was people trying to kill him. There were multiple bones broken in his neck and he was heard screaming. It's was an 8 feet high cell and he was around 6 feet. He didn't hang himself.
multiple bones broken in the neck points more toward hanging,in strangulation only the hyoid bone would be broken. but he did sign a will two days before he died,its a bizzare case


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20 Aug 2019, 3:03 pm

Doesn't really sound like a will to me, just moving assets around and it's only speculation from what I can see. There's no way he killed himself, he wanted to live and freeze his brain and sperm.


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21 Aug 2019, 8:53 am

Apparentley Jeffry Epstein was having sex with young girls while on work release in florida back about 10 years ago.he also blackmailed a girl into having sex with him by promising him to pay for surgury she needed.the surgury was never paid for.

Epsteins estate is currantly being sued by several old victims.Epstein signed a will two days before his death giving a trust to his brother.Its unclear to me if they can sue a trust in the name of Epsteins brother


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21 Aug 2019, 4:13 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
Doesn't really sound like a will to me, just moving assets around and it's only speculation from what I can see. There's no way he killed himself, he wanted to live and freeze his brain and sperm.

It's definitely possible he killed himself.
It's definitely possible he was murdered.