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My 2 cents worth: This conflict reminds me of a Marvin Gaye song "What's Going On?". Granted this song was about the Vietnam war but one lyric is "only love can conquer hate". I feel everyone is sympathetic towards the jews and what they went through in WWII but this does not give them the right to oppress others. Another cliche I think is applicable is kicking the can down the road. Instead of Israel picking up the can they will let a future generation deal with the problem. Israel might threaten violence but while this may get conformity in the short term; they are not dealing with the underlying issue and the same resentment will surface again.
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Well it's your classic vicious circle, isn't it?
Although not all terrorism fits this pattern, for example the Oklahoma City (US) bombing in 1995.
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Well it's your classic vicious circle, isn't it?
Although not all terrorism fits this pattern, for example the Oklahoma City (US) bombing in 1995.
That was done in retaliation for the Waco siege.
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Yet I hear nothing but crickets from the people who get offended by from the river to the sea...
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We Went to the ADL's Anti-Semitism Conference and Saw Palestine Activists Compared to Neo-Nazis
The vlogger critiqued the ADL for being hypocrite for allying with a racist state that allies with antisemites. True or not what both the ADL and Israel are allying with these people out of the belief that the enemy of my enemy is my friend. This can be very fraught as the Netanyahu’s “alliance” with Hamas, America’s alliance with Bin Ladin, and Stalin’s alliance with Hitler proved. But Israel and South Africa’s alliance was beneficial to both sides and since zionist Jews do not believe in the rapture they gladly accept Christian zionist support despite it being given for the wrong reason. The Vlogger made a big deal deal out of the the nazi Azov brigade. Yet Ukraine’s Jewish President and those Nazi’s are ok with allying. Zelenskyy has to know that once the war is over those Nazi’s represent a threat not only to Ukraine but him and his family and that he is making them much more of a threat then they would have been without his support. I do not know the answer but what I do know is that I do not have the compartmentalization skills of these politicians.
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Well it's your classic vicious circle, isn't it?
Although not all terrorism fits this pattern, for example the Oklahoma City (US) bombing in 1995.
That was done in retaliation for the Waco siege.
I don't correlate the Waco siege with any sort of oppression, and it didn't lead to any sort of vicious circle. Instead, it led to a decades long strengthening of allegiance to the sorts of ideas McVeigh espoused, but no complementary growth in the popularity of opposing political sentiment. Before I saw your comment, I decided I would start a thread in PP&R about Waco. I may do so later today.
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Yet I hear nothing but crickets from the people who get offended by from the river to the sea...
https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-778367
"After October 7, instead of urging people to go south, we should direct them to the beaches. The Navy can transport them to the shores of Lebanon, where there are already sufficient refugee camps. Then, a security strip should be established from the sea to the Gaza border fence, completely empty, as a reminder of what was once there. It should resemble the Auschwitz concentration camp," he said in an interview with Ben Caspit and Yinon Magal.
What occurred on October 7 was a second Holocaust. Lebanon already has refugee camps, and that's where they should go," Azoulai said. "We should leave Gaza desolate and destroyed to serve as a museum, demonstrating the madness of the people who lived there."
Later, he clarified his stance about the situation up North: "Hezbollah is observing the situation in the South, and if we don't address it properly, they will see it as a weakness. No matter how strong terrorism may be, we cannot live in fear or uproot people from their homes. We must act decisively."
Azoulai finished the interview by saying, "The displaced residents of the North deserve to know when and how they will return home. We don't want war or casualties. However, I don't believe Hezbollah will surrender peacefully."
Don’t fret if Trump is reelected he will get Mexico to pay for this.
On a more serious note others have proposed nuking Gaza. If that happens it will be Hamas’s wet dream. That action would finish what 10/7 started. The Gaza envelope being next door would be uninhabitable for centuries. Jerusalem is 62 miles away Tel Aviv 40 miles away so they would be irradiated. This will kill way more Jews then Hamas can and do it more slowly and painfully then Hamas can.
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Well it's your classic vicious circle, isn't it?
Although not all terrorism fits this pattern, for example the Oklahoma City (US) bombing in 1995.
That was done in retaliation for the Waco siege.
I don't correlate the Waco siege with any sort of oppression, and it didn't lead to any sort of vicious circle. Instead, it led to a decades long strengthening of allegiance to the sorts of ideas McVeigh espoused, but no complementary growth in the popularity of opposing political sentiment. Before I saw your comment, I decided I would start a thread in PP&R about Waco. I may do so later today.
I would say Waco and Ruby Ridge still count in this scenario because the far right perceives it to be oppressive of them. These are the same people who see a black girl in the Little Mermaid or a few too many Asians in their suburbs and see it as existential oppression. Or how conservative Christians think the state will outlaw their religion just because calling someone a f*g nowadays can get you fired, instead of people being fired for being a f*g.
These people don't know what actual oppression is, so they have to make mountains out of molehills, because they have never actually dealt with a real figurative "mountain". It's also why the far and alt-right are so attracted to conspiracy theories. All their rhetoric tells them they are oppressed, but then in their everyday lives they feel suspiciously un-oppressed, so really the government is secretly oppressing them with chemtrails and space lasers and non-European immigrants.
Think of it this way: these people see black men killed by police and think it's no big deal, but then a Waco or Ruby Ridge or Jan 6 happens and suddenly there is a vast law enforcement conspiracy against conservative America.
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But there is no vicious circle involved with that situation as with Palestine and Israel.
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Yet I hear nothing but crickets from the people who get offended by from the river to the sea...
https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-778367
"After October 7, instead of urging people to go south, we should direct them to the beaches. The Navy can transport them to the shores of Lebanon, where there are already sufficient refugee camps. Then, a security strip should be established from the sea to the Gaza border fence, completely empty, as a reminder of what was once there. It should resemble the Auschwitz concentration camp," he said in an interview with Ben Caspit and Yinon Magal.
What occurred on October 7 was a second Holocaust. Lebanon already has refugee camps, and that's where they should go," Azoulai said. "We should leave Gaza desolate and destroyed to serve as a museum, demonstrating the madness of the people who lived there."
Later, he clarified his stance about the situation up North: "Hezbollah is observing the situation in the South, and if we don't address it properly, they will see it as a weakness. No matter how strong terrorism may be, we cannot live in fear or uproot people from their homes. We must act decisively."
Azoulai finished the interview by saying, "The displaced residents of the North deserve to know when and how they will return home. We don't want war or casualties. However, I don't believe Hezbollah will surrender peacefully."
Don’t fret if Trump is reelected he will get Mexico to pay for this.
On a more serious note others have proposed nuking Gaza. If that happens it will be Hamas’s wet dream. That action would finish what 10/7 started. The Gaza envelope being next door would be uninhabitable for centuries. Jerusalem is 62 miles away Tel Aviv 40 miles away so they would be irradiated. This will kill way more Jews then Hamas can and do it more slowly and painfully then Hamas can.
Wouldn't be possible to nuke an area with small tactical weapons without radiating the nearby areas?
Yet I hear nothing but crickets from the people who get offended by from the river to the sea...
https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-778367
"After October 7, instead of urging people to go south, we should direct them to the beaches. The Navy can transport them to the shores of Lebanon, where there are already sufficient refugee camps. Then, a security strip should be established from the sea to the Gaza border fence, completely empty, as a reminder of what was once there. It should resemble the Auschwitz concentration camp," he said in an interview with Ben Caspit and Yinon Magal.
What occurred on October 7 was a second Holocaust. Lebanon already has refugee camps, and that's where they should go," Azoulai said. "We should leave Gaza desolate and destroyed to serve as a museum, demonstrating the madness of the people who lived there."
Later, he clarified his stance about the situation up North: "Hezbollah is observing the situation in the South, and if we don't address it properly, they will see it as a weakness. No matter how strong terrorism may be, we cannot live in fear or uproot people from their homes. We must act decisively."
Azoulai finished the interview by saying, "The displaced residents of the North deserve to know when and how they will return home. We don't want war or casualties. However, I don't believe Hezbollah will surrender peacefully."
Don’t fret if Trump is reelected he will get Mexico to pay for this.
On a more serious note others have proposed nuking Gaza. If that happens it will be Hamas’s wet dream. That action would finish what 10/7 started. The Gaza envelope being next door would be uninhabitable for centuries. Jerusalem is 62 miles away Tel Aviv 40 miles away so they would be irradiated. This will kill way more Jews then Hamas can and do it more slowly and painfully then Hamas can.
Wouldn't be possible to nuke an area with small tactical weapons without radiating the nearby areas?
No, that's not possible. Tel Aviv would become uninhabitable then due to radiation. The guy who made that statement was being stupid.
Yet I hear nothing but crickets from the people who get offended by from the river to the sea...
There's a lot of crickets in Melbourne indeed.
I have turned my attention away from Gaza and looking at how Iran has become so emboldened from the HAMAS attacks.
https://ecfr.eu/article/iran-hamas-and- ... nvenience/
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