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27 Aug 2009, 3:19 am

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besides, no one ever seems to remember that Mary Jo had a choice to get into that car or not. This idea that women are so unqualified to not be responsible for their own actions annoys me.


Once Jabba the Harp accepted Maryjo's presence in the car he was legally responsible for her safety. He was driving drunk, which he did frequently. It was his cowardice and depraved indifference, leaving her to drown, that marks The Swimmer's act with infamy. He will always and forever be remembered as the Swimmer of Chappaquidic.

The minute you put a car in motion with passengers inside, you are responsible for their safety.

The Kennedy boys were the worst of the worst. They were drinkers and womanizers. Truly the sons of Old Joe. The sins of the father (Old Joseph Kennedy) descended upon the sons.

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27 Aug 2009, 8:13 am

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besides, no one ever seems to remember that Mary Jo had a choice to get into that car or not. This idea that women are so unqualified to not be responsible for their own actions annoys me.


Once Jabba the Harp accepted Maryjo's presence in the car he was legally responsible for her safety. He was driving drunk, which he did frequently. It was his cowardice and depraved indifference, leaving her to drown, that marks The Swimmer's act with infamy. He will always and forever be remembered as the Swimmer of Chappaquidic.

The minute you put a car in motion with passengers inside, you are responsible for their safety.

The Kennedy boys were the worst of the worst. They were drinkers and womanizers. Truly the sons of Old Joe. The sins of the father (Old Joseph Kennedy) descended upon the sons.

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and I have the Family Medical Leave Act for my AS flare ups because that son made something of his life. Interesting how that works out, doesn't it?


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27 Aug 2009, 10:34 am

Ruveyn, don't you have anything better to do than beating on a dead man? =/ In death, all are equal <.< Earthly possessions don't mean jack anymore. Better let the dead sleep and the past behind us while keeping their memory alive. ;p



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27 Aug 2009, 4:01 pm

Christ, you mean to tell me all they have had on TV is footage of Kennedy in the hearse going from Hyannisport to the JFK libary in Boston? Did they have live footage of him being embalmed as well? Get over it hes dead, move on. If I change my name to Kennnedy will the media cover my death like this as well?


I have heard stories of him going into places in cape cod without ever intending to pay because he expected to get a hand out because he was a Kennedy.



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27 Aug 2009, 4:28 pm

Good riddance.

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August 26, 2009 by BNP News -

Modern America’s greatest traitor, Edward Kennedy, has died, after nearly destroying European America. He leaves behind a scandalous political career which was laced with lurid tales of drugs, sexual abuse and moral degeneracy.

Apart from his reprehensible personal life, Senator Kennedy is best known as the “godfather” of America’s immigration policy since 1964, and is possibly the one individual most responsible for the current demographic displacement of European Americans from that continent.

As chairman of the Senate Subcommittee on Immigration, Senator Kennedy had chief oversight responsibility for the Immigration and Naturalization Service, which he allowed to degenerate into one of the most ineffective agencies in the Federal Government.

He was the chief sponsor of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 which abolished the national-origin quotas that had been in place in the United States since the Immigration Act of 1924.

During debate on the Senate floor, Kennedy, speaking of the effects of the act, said, “First, our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. Under the proposed bill, the present level of immigration remains substantially the same…. Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset…. Contrary to the charges in some quarters, [the bill] will not inundate America with immigrants from any one country or area, or the most populated and deprived nations of Africa and Asia…. In the final analysis, the ethnic pattern of immigration under the proposed measure is not expected to change as sharply as the critics seem to think…. The bill will not flood our cities with immigrants. It will not upset the ethnic mix of our society. It will not relax the standards of admission. It will not cause American workers to lose their jobs.”

Of course, precisely the opposite happened, and the Act resulted in a flood of new immigration from non-European nations that changed the ethnic make-up of the United States. Immigration doubled between 1965 and 1970 and doubled again between 1970 and 1990. European origin Americans have dropped as a percentage of the American population from nearly 90 percent to the low 60 percent of today. At current immigration rates, European Americans are on course to become an absolute minority in their country within twenty years.

Despite the demographic change which proved Kennedy was a bare faced liar, he shamelessly proceeded to foster a further set of laws which actually encouraged the Third World invasion of America. He was behind the Refugee Act of 1980, and a major proponent of the fraud-ridden 1986 immigration amnesty. In both cases, he deliberately lied in public about the number of “immigrants” who would exploit the legislation, claiming that the effects would be minor.

In reality, about 2.7 million illegals qualified for American citizenship, one of the single largest population additions in American history, and the lure of amnesty drew a further five million illegals into the country.

Kennedy also promoted his anti-white legislation without any regard to the cost in administrative and financial terms. His 1980 Refugee Act created a massive taxpayer-funded bureaucracy which today, according to its own figures, works through at least 100,000 fake asylum applications each year, in addition to the ‘genuine’ ones.

The Seasonal Agricultural Worker (SAW) amnesty, promoted by Kennedy, saw fraud rates as high as 70 percent. The number of illegals who used the amnesty to gain access to America was estimated to be at least three times the number of those who qualified given the size of that country’s agricultural labour force.

His personal life was as appalling as his political career. Time magazine once described Kennedy as “Palm Beach boozer, lout and tabloid grotesque” while Newsweek said Kennedy was “the living symbol of the family flaws.”

Kennedy himself later acknowledged, “I went through a lot of difficult times over a period in my life where [drinking] may have been somewhat of a factor or force.” Twice he was involved in drunken incidents in Washington restaurants to which police were called, with one involving physical contact with a waitress.

His most infamous personal moment came in July 1969 when he was on Martha’s Vineyard’s Chappaquiddick Island at a party for the “Boiler Room Girls”, a group of young women who had worked on his brother Robert’s presidential campaign the year before.

Kennedy left the party with one of the women, 28-year-old Mary Jo Kopechne. He drove his car off the Dike Bridge into the Poucha Pond inlet. Kennedy escaped the overturned vehicle and swam to safety, but Kopechne died in the car. Kennedy left the scene and did not call authorities until after Kopechne’s body was discovered the following day.

Kennedy pleaded guilty to leaving the scene of an accident and was given a sentence of two months in jail, suspended. The most likely explanation for his behaviour was that he was severely under the influence of drugs or alcohol and did not want his blood tested so soon after the incident, leaving the unfortunate young woman to drown. Kennedy denied the allegations, which dogged his failed 1980 presidential election challenge against incumbent Jimmy Carter.

Edward Kennedy will go down in the annals of history as one of the greatest traitors America has ever produced, due to his attempts to utterly destroy the country of his birth.



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27 Aug 2009, 4:42 pm

8O The man died show alittle repect .



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27 Aug 2009, 5:02 pm

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Ruveyn, don't you have anything better to do than beating on a dead man? =/ In death, all are equal <.< Earthly possessions don't mean jack anymore. Better let the dead sleep and the past behind us while keeping their memory alive. ;p


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27 Aug 2009, 7:21 pm

See ya in hell Swimmer!



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28 Aug 2009, 10:45 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaiTipTtbak[/youtube]

Ugh what? Not only did he murder somebody but he liked to tell jokes about it?

He accomplished a lot in the senate and was very influential but as far as celebrating his life? No. He was not a good man.

It's a sad irony that he'll be lying amongst our greatest heroes in Arlington.



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28 Aug 2009, 11:15 am

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8O The man died show alittle repect .


Agreed. Could we at least get the body in the ground before y'all start smashing him to bits. BTW, NY'ers were having none of the Caroline for Senate idea. She bowed out nearly crying from embarassment. She might have been more disliked than Patterson (new gov after Spitzer).



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28 Aug 2009, 12:32 pm

You'll turn into a bitter and grumpy old man that way Ruveyn. And uh, if you want to do the same as those muslim extremists which you so despise, feel free to continue the cycle of hatred. <.<



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28 Aug 2009, 2:57 pm

Death of The Lion topic

I have mixed feelings about the man personally, but in his second half of life I think he did some good for his party and country.

Perhaps, ruveyn, the Senator did not save his passenger MaryJo because he thought it would put himself in further danger. :roll:


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28 Aug 2009, 11:08 pm

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Good riddance.

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America’s Greatest Traitor Dies

August 26, 2009 by BNP News -

Modern America’s greatest traitor, Edward Kennedy, has died, after nearly destroying European America. He leaves behind a scandalous political career which was laced with lurid tales of drugs, sexual abuse and moral degeneracy.

Apart from his reprehensible personal life, Senator Kennedy is best known as the “godfather” of America’s immigration policy since 1964, and is possibly the one individual most responsible for the current demographic displacement of European Americans from that continent.

As chairman of the Senate Subcommittee on Immigration, Senator Kennedy had chief oversight responsibility for the Immigration and Naturalization Service, which he allowed to degenerate into one of the most ineffective agencies in the Federal Government.

He was the chief sponsor of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 which abolished the national-origin quotas that had been in place in the United States since the Immigration Act of 1924.

During debate on the Senate floor, Kennedy, speaking of the effects of the act, said, “First, our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. Under the proposed bill, the present level of immigration remains substantially the same…. Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset…. Contrary to the charges in some quarters, [the bill] will not inundate America with immigrants from any one country or area, or the most populated and deprived nations of Africa and Asia…. In the final analysis, the ethnic pattern of immigration under the proposed measure is not expected to change as sharply as the critics seem to think…. The bill will not flood our cities with immigrants. It will not upset the ethnic mix of our society. It will not relax the standards of admission. It will not cause American workers to lose their jobs.”

Of course, precisely the opposite happened, and the Act resulted in a flood of new immigration from non-European nations that changed the ethnic make-up of the United States. Immigration doubled between 1965 and 1970 and doubled again between 1970 and 1990. European origin Americans have dropped as a percentage of the American population from nearly 90 percent to the low 60 percent of today. At current immigration rates, European Americans are on course to become an absolute minority in their country within twenty years.

Despite the demographic change which proved Kennedy was a bare faced liar, he shamelessly proceeded to foster a further set of laws which actually encouraged the Third World invasion of America. He was behind the Refugee Act of 1980, and a major proponent of the fraud-ridden 1986 immigration amnesty. In both cases, he deliberately lied in public about the number of “immigrants” who would exploit the legislation, claiming that the effects would be minor.

In reality, about 2.7 million illegals qualified for American citizenship, one of the single largest population additions in American history, and the lure of amnesty drew a further five million illegals into the country.

Kennedy also promoted his anti-white legislation without any regard to the cost in administrative and financial terms. His 1980 Refugee Act created a massive taxpayer-funded bureaucracy which today, according to its own figures, works through at least 100,000 fake asylum applications each year, in addition to the ‘genuine’ ones.

The Seasonal Agricultural Worker (SAW) amnesty, promoted by Kennedy, saw fraud rates as high as 70 percent. The number of illegals who used the amnesty to gain access to America was estimated to be at least three times the number of those who qualified given the size of that country’s agricultural labour force.

His personal life was as appalling as his political career. Time magazine once described Kennedy as “Palm Beach boozer, lout and tabloid grotesque” while Newsweek said Kennedy was “the living symbol of the family flaws.”

Kennedy himself later acknowledged, “I went through a lot of difficult times over a period in my life where [drinking] may have been somewhat of a factor or force.” Twice he was involved in drunken incidents in Washington restaurants to which police were called, with one involving physical contact with a waitress.

His most infamous personal moment came in July 1969 when he was on Martha’s Vineyard’s Chappaquiddick Island at a party for the “Boiler Room Girls”, a group of young women who had worked on his brother Robert’s presidential campaign the year before.

Kennedy left the party with one of the women, 28-year-old Mary Jo Kopechne. He drove his car off the Dike Bridge into the Poucha Pond inlet. Kennedy escaped the overturned vehicle and swam to safety, but Kopechne died in the car. Kennedy left the scene and did not call authorities until after Kopechne’s body was discovered the following day.

Kennedy pleaded guilty to leaving the scene of an accident and was given a sentence of two months in jail, suspended. The most likely explanation for his behaviour was that he was severely under the influence of drugs or alcohol and did not want his blood tested so soon after the incident, leaving the unfortunate young woman to drown. Kennedy denied the allegations, which dogged his failed 1980 presidential election challenge against incumbent Jimmy Carter.

Edward Kennedy will go down in the annals of history as one of the greatest traitors America has ever produced, due to his attempts to utterly destroy the country of his birth.


Traitor?

He did more good for this country than most ever will.


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29 Aug 2009, 12:02 am

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Traitor?

He did more good for this country than most ever will.

He stood for higher taxes and bigger government with more influence in people's lives. In his personal life he was a perfect stereotype of a sleazy politician.


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29 Aug 2009, 8:08 am

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I am VERY worried about how his passing will effect the sales of alchohol. Now that he is gone the sales drop could effect the whole industry.


When they did the autopsy on T.K. they found a very low quantity of blood in his alcohol level.

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29 Aug 2009, 10:20 am

I read over the detractor's comments and have to chuckle. Not one has contributed one iota as much to the US as Ted Kennedy and the Kennedy family has. I would love to see a list on every detractor's post of their life time accomplishments and how it has changed other's lives for the better along with each snarky comment, each cheap shot.

and as more comments pile up from this post. . . I still won't see that list, will I?
I didn't think so. :lol:


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