Mass. Catholic school won't admit lesbians' son

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My Dad was taught by the "brothers", and some of the stories he tells are truly horrendous. I was beaten in the Seventies by nuns, but at least they let me keep my pants on for the privilege. The "brothers" used to strip the boy's pants off in front of the class, and beat with either a belt or a cane till they wept. One boy my Dad went to school with would get so upset he would soil himself. And all the lads knew that there were certain "brothers" who were funny and enjoyed the beatings a bit too much.

Once when I was five the nun lined us all up against the back wall, and walked up and down the line smacking our hands with a ruler. I didn't cry, so she came back to me, and I still didn't cry. So she made me turn my palms, and hit me across the knuckles, and I still didn't cry. Then she used the narrow side of the ruler - which still hurts when I think about it. I didn't cry, but I did kick her in the shins, head butt her, and bite.

The head teacher when he found out what happened let me sit in his room till I'd calmed down, then fed me chocolate, and told me not to worry about the "old nuns", they were just jealous because they had no kids of their own. It didn't stop them beating me, but it did make me feel like at least one person was on my side.

He couldn't get rid of the nuns because the school was attached to a convent. All he could do was persuade the kids that we weren't filth, and try to advise us on the best way to work around the "penguins." Of course, I always thought they were daleks under their robes...

jesusandmo.net rocks.



american public schooling is such a joke that many of us would rather send our kids to private schools even if we don't find them completely compatible. we also (like to think we) have a very strong (read as: largely imaginary) connection to "christian morality." we're really lazy about applying what we actually believe to our ideas of what we believe.

i think it would be wonderful to take exit polls at different religious institutions to see what people really swallow and which pills they secretly cheek and spit out.

agree with the church's stance on premarital sex? (you're not allowed to have it.)
agree with the church's stance on condoms? (you're not allowed to use them, or any other method of contraception.)
agree with the church's stance on geocentrism? (their official stance, until AD 2,000, was that the earth was the center of the universe and all other celestial objects revolve around it.)
agree with the church's stance on divorce? (the church does not recognize legal divorce.......unless you pay them off, then they call it something else.)
agree with the church's stance on abortion? (even in the extreme cases of rape, incest, or excessive risk of death the the mother, child, or both, abortion is evil and not allowed.)
agree with the church's stance on demonic possession? (that it exists and priests can totally out-magic the devil.)
agree with the church's stance on papal infallibility? (the dude is NEVER WRONG [is divinely protected from making errors) when he's telling you what to do. the infallibility does not extend to his personal life or even actions in his official capacity that aren't telling you what to do.)
agree with the church's stance on masturbation? (it's a sin. often a "mortal sin." ...no-rly...)

i think the results of such polls would be delightfully hilarious to freethinkers. i think a lot of people who call themselves catholic would find the humor, as well.


god forbid (sorry, can't help myself) we act as america's favorite fictional protagonist acted and told us to act and not like the oppressors and religious profiteers he warned us about.

christian bumper stickers should read: "god loves me and you (unless i don't love you, in which case he thinks you suck)."

It's interesting that people cite Jesus to back up whatever their own view is. Jesus never spoke specifically on homosexuality, though it's obvious from what He did say that He considered marriage itself to be between one man and a woman. I'm not saying that I expect anyone else to agree with Him, just saying that the cartoon is very interesting... Why is it that people still consider the opinion of a Jewish carpenter to be of interest two thousand years later?

By the way, the Muslims I know who are strict enough to wear that kind of veil are very much against homosexuality. I do know a young Muslim man whose parents disowned him completely when they found out he was gay. The young man was so messed up over this rejection that he tried to kill himself, and nearly succeeded. So I find the cartoon wrong on both counts.

There's a depressingly straightforward reason you don't hear the question "What Would Mohammed Do?" much.

It is very, very sad.

Actually, when I think of it, why don't we hear about homosexual couples complaining that their children weren't granted admission to Muslim schools? Certainly in my country (I'm in the UK) the very few Muslim primary schools have extremely high academic standards, compared with any other school (including the church ones.) Why do we not hear of homosexual or non "trad" straights being rejected by these schools? Mainly because nobody would be insane enough to say, "Hello, I'm an unmarried mother living in an open relationship with a bi guy... can our kid join your school?"

And yet, I know one unmarried mother in an open relationship with a (nominal) Hindu who had no problem being accepted by the CofE (Church of England) school that my son attended... to say nothing of the wiccans attending at the time. (I was one of them... this was before my conversion).

So yes... an interesting point... why don't we hear about people who want their children to enjoy the undoubtedly superior educational advantages of a Muslim school, but are rejected for religious reasons.

Reminds me of an episode of Law And Order.

Don't have your kids fight your battles for you.