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Will Mel Gibson's career recover from this?
Yes 21%  21%  [ 7 ]
No 79%  79%  [ 26 ]
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13 Jul 2010, 6:01 pm

I kind of felt odd listening to this. There is something voyeuristic about listening to something personal like this.

But listening to the audio, I have to hand it to the women. She held her ground against Mel quite well and kept her composure, even after Mel's death threats.


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13 Jul 2010, 8:01 pm

I just read what the recording said on the links cause I thought listening to it would make me sick... (I'm a chicken)


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13 Jul 2010, 8:07 pm

The contents of the tape were disturbing, however I got to say that this topic makes me uncomfortable. I like to believe in presumption of innocence, and so far there is no evidence that the voice on tape is Gibson at all, yet everybody is rushing at charging against him. I think Gibson has had his share of very racist things to do, but I don't think we can jump to conclusions on this one.

It bugs me because everyone can start rumors of you being racist and then "leak" a tape to the media and people will be quickly on you with no real evidence but 'claims' what-soever. I am not saying Gibson is innocent of this, but I don't like everybody to assume the tape is legit right away...


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13 Jul 2010, 8:16 pm

Vexcalibur wrote:
The contents of the tape were disturbing, however I got to say that this topic makes me uncomfortable. I like to believe in presumption of innocence, and so far there is no evidence that the voice on tape is Gibson at all, yet everybody is rushing at charging against him. I think Gibson has had his share of very racist things to do, but I don't think we can jump to conclusions on this one.

It bugs me because everyone can start rumors of you being racist and then "leak" a tape to the media and people will be quickly on you with no real evidence but 'claims' what-soever. I am not saying Gibson is innocent of this, but I don't like everybody to assume the tape is legit right away...


It is pretty obvious it is his voice...



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14 Jul 2010, 5:56 pm

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Vexcalibur wrote:
The contents of the tape were disturbing, however I got to say that this topic makes me uncomfortable. I like to believe in presumption of innocence, and so far there is no evidence that the voice on tape is Gibson at all, yet everybody is rushing at charging against him. I think Gibson has had his share of very racist things to do, but I don't think we can jump to conclusions on this one.

It bugs me because everyone can start rumors of you being racist and then "leak" a tape to the media and people will be quickly on you with no real evidence but 'claims' what-soever. I am not saying Gibson is innocent of this, but I don't like everybody to assume the tape is legit right away...


It is pretty obvious it is his voice...


Those people who have seen his movies (and obviously heard his voice through them) know what he sounds like. Unless a person was hired to impersonate him, it probably is him... but I doubt they could find a convincing impersonator of him. But Vexcalibur definitely has a point about jumping to conclusions.


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14 Jul 2010, 7:04 pm

Jiminy Christmas! Once you go beyond the nasty language, you can hear the absolute hatred and rage in his voice. So it cost him $450 million dollars to dump his first wife so he could run off with a little bit of young Russian fluff, then ends up hating said fluff for being herself. He's trapped into another long-term financial obligation because he immediately had a child with this woman.

Here is something he should learn, that I first read on a bathroom wall when I was a teenager:

Use a condom
You will learn
No deposit
No return! :lol:

Oh wait, never mind....the Pope says that every sperm is sacred...or was that Monty Python...??



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15 Jul 2010, 1:18 am

one phrase out of Mel's telephonic tirade which will stick in my mind, is "YOU ARE A MENTALLY DEPRIVED IDIOT!! !" i am amazed somebody hasn't already made a youtube ditty out of it, like they did with that tv station blooper about "[keep] f-ing that chicken!"
anyways, it is plain that the legal groundwork is being laid for an insanity defense, in that bipolar disorder is being bandied about as an excuse. the legal and commercial fix is in.



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15 Jul 2010, 5:05 am

Mel Gibson is a great actor and a great director. He is a serious Catholic. He has made great films upholding Christianity and the European race.

Can you imagine Mel starring in "Caliifornication" or "Queer as Folk"?

No, Mel is a true European hero, on film and in real life.

He is not being blamed for being a degenerate. He is being blamed for calling his GIRLFRIEND a degenerate!

And for that we must hate him. Right?



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15 Jul 2010, 6:13 am

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15 Jul 2010, 12:08 pm

mel gibson still has a career?

I stopped watching him after he dumped his wife of 28 years and the mother of his kids for a Russian bimbo WHILST AT THE SAME TIME PREACHING CHRISTIANITY.

I'm an atheist, but got to feel bad for the Christians here: I wouldn't want that idiot promoting a religion of mine.



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15 Jul 2010, 12:42 pm

It's like the bigger they are the harder they fall. I don't know if it's just me but it just seems like a lot of these people who become big with fame turn into these complete as*holes who think they can get away with everything....which they do for the most part.


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15 Jul 2010, 1:13 pm

Wuffles wrote:
mel gibson still has a career?

I stopped watching him after he dumped his wife of 28 years and the mother of his kids for a Russian bimbo WHILST AT THE SAME TIME PREACHING CHRISTIANITY.

I'm an atheist, but got to feel bad for the Christians here: I wouldn't want that idiot promoting a religion of mine.

Didn't he start his own sect of extreme catholicism with his father



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15 Jul 2010, 4:59 pm

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So he yells at his girlfriend for dressing and acting like a cheap tart in a private phone conversation.

So SHE records it and makes it public to destroy his career, and HE is the bad guy?
Perhaps she is a cheap tart and an embarrassment to him. She is obviously a very viscous person.

Then his agent drops him because he (gasp) said the "N word"
His agent made millions of dollars out of him. I thought it was an agent's job to be loyal to the client and handle bad publicity?

The fix is in. The "powers that be" are determined to take him down.




I truly can't believe you're defending this cretin 8O 8O 8O


Ummm Wombat....in case you haven't noticed, he didn't just hurl insults at her. Rather, he also made blatant TERRORISTIC THREATS against her and THAT is NEVER justified legally or morally. Do you somehow feel it's justified to issue terroristic threats against your wife or girlfriend simply because you believe she's "acting and dressing like a cheap tart"? If so.......Al Qaeda is always recruiting and you might fit right in. :roll:


Please don't act like there's some conspiracy against him either. Much like his father, Mel Gibson is a bully, a glorified thug, a racist, a misogynist and bigoted anti-semitic "conservative" Catholic. Don't expect anyone to feel sorry for poor Mel if his precious "career" is destroyed because of this. The man is worth tens of millions of dollars at least and he's not going to starve if he never acts, directs, or produces again. Why should anybody who cares about their own career wish to be associated with an asshat like him? About the only people who will feel sorry for him are other loud-mouthed, bullying, misogynist, racist and anti-semitic bigots. People like this guy:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_A._Donohue



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15 Jul 2010, 5:19 pm

Wombat wrote:
Mel Gibson is a great actor and a great director. He is a serious Catholic. He has made great films upholding Christianity and the European race.

Can you imagine Mel starring in "Caliifornication" or "Queer as Folk"?

No, Mel is a true European hero, on film and in real life.

He is not being blamed for being a degenerate. He is being blamed for calling his GIRLFRIEND a degenerate!

And for that we must hate him. Right?




After all....everything that Mel has said and done throughout his life proves what a great christian he is.

It's all exactly what Jesus would do and say :roll:



Ofcourse I could never Mel starring in "Californication" or "Queer as Folk".


Cuz he's a real man unlike those weak, limp-wristed, homos who will burn in hell for eternity right?



The consistent use of racist and anti-semitic epithets is precisely what I expect from people who claim to be "upholding the European race".

You know people who, unlike the honest nazi scum, are too cowardly to come out and admit they hate blacks, jews and all people not of white European origin.


Your true colors are bleeding through Wombat and I can't imagine too many people here will find them all that pretty.



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15 Jul 2010, 6:05 pm

I didn't vote in this poll because I have no idea whether his career will recover from this or not.

More accurately....like most things... I don't see this as a black/white issue which can receive a yes/no answer. His "career recovery" would be a rather subjective thing wouldn't it? How exactly could we objectively define "career recovery" in his case? If he only acts in one more movie that's a flop and directs and/or produces another which is modestly successful could that be defined as "career recovery" or not?



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15 Jul 2010, 6:19 pm

I had seen this on the news the other night and said to myself,"What kind of person would go on an anger filled verbal tirade as such he has done?" Honestly, if these recordings prove to be valid he's going to be spending some time n jail or something along those lines..Honestly, it Mr. Gibson's atty had stated the audio recordings had been altered whereby what he had said is not accurate and should not be admissable as evidence..Well, one can only wait and see what happens.Being straightforward most of the people in the entertainment industy these days seem to be having all sorts of problems be it alcohol,drugs,sexual misconduct,etc.. I'm just glad that I did not become an actor as, a member of my family had made the suggestion of many years back for, I'd find such atmosphere to be chaotic..


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