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08 Aug 2010, 7:02 am

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just naming a kid adolf hitler campbell is grounds for having the kid taken away. who in their right mind would named their kid adolf hitler?


Someone who believes in calling their child what they want to! For F's sake, get over it already.



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08 Aug 2010, 7:14 am

Craig28 wrote:
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just naming a kid adolf hitler campbell is grounds for having the kid taken away. who in their right mind would named their kid adolf hitler?


Someone who believes in calling their child what they want to! For F's sake, get over it already.
am i the only one who read that article thoroughly :? ?
it said there was domestic violence in the home.
not a good environment for children in any case. The fact that they named their kids after evil fascist dictators was just icing on the cake.


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08 Aug 2010, 7:17 am

The children don't belong to anyone in here, they are not your responsibility. Get on with your lives, I hear having AS should be keeping you occupied!



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08 Aug 2010, 7:23 am

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The children don't belong to anyone in here, they are not your responsibility. Get on with your lives, I hear having AS should be keeping you occupied!


doesn't mean we can't express our opinions on it.
sort of the purpose of this thread, after all.

sounds like you're in a bit of a mood though.
what's wrong :? ?


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08 Aug 2010, 7:23 am

Craig28 wrote:
trojan51 wrote:
just naming a kid adolf hitler campbell is grounds for having the kid taken away. who in their right mind would named their kid adolf hitler?


Someone who believes in calling their child what they want to! For F's sake, get over it already.


Assuming Craig is your actual name, then perhaps you simply are not familiar with the stigma attached to strange and unusual names, even ones that don't carry such notorious connotations. You also seem to be missing the fact that a child is not just "property" to be named, like a goldfish or a cat. It is a discreet entity that will have to live with what it is given for at least 18 years of its life. How well is this child going to do when it hits high-school and the hispanic and jewish kids hear his name in roll-call? How much respect is he going to get from teachers when they realise what his name is? What self-respecting girl who isn't a born-again shit-thick neo-nazi would willingly date a Hitler? Would someone willingly marry into that name? He's certainly going to get short thrift on his first trip to Europe.

YOU might think there is nothing in a name, and maybe in a cuddly care-bears version of the world there shouldn't be such prejudice, but this kid has to deal with what the rest of the world thinks for a very long time. When he is small, people will think "his parents are a***holes", but as he gets older, people will naturally shift that blame to him, especially if he passes the age where he can legally change it and does not. All of the above applies to the other sibling as well.


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08 Aug 2010, 7:27 am

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trojan51 wrote:
just naming a kid adolf hitler campbell is grounds for having the kid taken away. who in their right mind would named their kid adolf hitler?


Someone who believes in calling their child what they want to! For F's sake, get over it already.


Assuming Craig is your actual name, then perhaps you simply are not familiar with the stigma attached to strange and unusual names, even ones that don't carry such notorious connotations. You also seem to be missing the fact that a child is not just "property" to be named, like a goldfish or a cat. It is a discreet entity that will have to live with what it is given for at least 18 years of its life. How well is this child going to do when it hits high-school and the hispanic and jewish kids hear his name in roll-call? How much respect is he going to get from teachers when they realise what his name is? What self-respecting girl who isn't a born-again sh**-thick neo-nazi would willingly date a Hitler? Would someone willingly marry into that name? He's certainly going to get short thrift on his first trip to Europe.

YOU might think there is nothing in a name, and maybe in a cuddly care-bears version of the world there shouldn't be such prejudice, but this kid has to deal with what the rest of the world thinks for a very long time. When he is small, people will think "his parents are a***holes", but as he gets older, people will naturally shift that blame to him, especially if he passes the age where he can legally change it and does not. All of the above applies to the other sibling as well.


nicely put


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08 Aug 2010, 7:30 am

A family I know called their child Zubin. Is he gonna get mocked for that?!



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08 Aug 2010, 7:46 am

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A family I know called their child Zubin. Is he gonna get mocked for that?!

depending on which country he lives in i suppose.

how is that even pronounced :? ?


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08 Aug 2010, 8:52 am

Seanmw wrote:
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A family I know called their child Zubin. Is he gonna get mocked for that?!

depending on which country he lives in i suppose.

how is that even pronounced :? ?


It's a normal given name, it comes from Iran.


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08 Aug 2010, 8:54 am

Psychopompos wrote:
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Craig28 wrote:
A family I know called their child Zubin. Is he gonna get mocked for that?!

depending on which country he lives in i suppose.

how is that even pronounced :? ?


It's a normal given name, it comes from Iran.


Ahh, an Iranian name for a British white boy! Thats what the family is - white, not Middle Eastern. I can almost taste and see the taunts that little Zubin will face in the playground. :D



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08 Aug 2010, 9:21 am

Craig28 wrote:
Psychopompos wrote:
Seanmw wrote:
Craig28 wrote:
A family I know called their child Zubin. Is he gonna get mocked for that?!

depending on which country he lives in i suppose.

how is that even pronounced :? ?


It's a normal given name, it comes from Iran.


Ahh, an Iranian name for a British white boy! Thats what the family is - white, not Middle Eastern. I can almost taste and see the taunts that little Zubin will face in the playground. :D


Considering it's not made-up name as Psychopompos pointed out, i suppose he might be made fun of too badly.
Though considering he's a white boy with an iranian name, he just possibly might. Children can be cruel...

And even then, comparing that to naming your kid after fascist evil dictators is in no way the same thing. It might be an ill-fitting name to give a white kid, but it doesn't carry quite the same baggage and level of infamy as being named after Hitler.
An iranian is an iranian, there's no shame in being named after one, but Hitler on the other hand, killed millions and introduced the world to methamphetamines; he and his soldiers were tweakers.


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08 Aug 2010, 9:31 am

Craig28 wrote:
Psychopompos wrote:
Seanmw wrote:
Craig28 wrote:
A family I know called their child Zubin. Is he gonna get mocked for that?!

depending on which country he lives in i suppose.

how is that even pronounced :? ?


It's a normal given name, it comes from Iran.


Ahh, an Iranian name for a British white boy! Thats what the family is - white, not Middle Eastern. I can almost taste and see the taunts that little Zubin will face in the playground. :D


So you can see how a white kid with an Iranian name is liable to catch grief from his peers, but you can't see how a kid named after THE premier mass-murdering nutcase of the 20th century might attract a certain degree of abuse?


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08 Aug 2010, 9:50 am

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Ahh, an Iranian name for a British white boy! Thats what the family is - white, not Middle Eastern. I can almost taste and see the taunts that little Zubin will face in the playground. :D


So you can see how a white kid with an Iranian name is liable to catch grief from his peers, but you can't see how a kid named after THE premier mass-murdering nutcase of the 20th century might attract a certain degree of abuse?


Petard, meet Craig. Craig, meet your own petard.


Hmm... where did I put that hoist?


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08 Aug 2010, 10:16 am

Adolf Hitler was a man who had many faults, society treated him like complete crap, his mother died while he was young (reported weeks ago that it was actually a Jewish doctor who treated his mother at the time of her death). Hitler's behaviour was totallly justified for a man that had mental health issues, and getting many other men to kill millions of Jews and soldiers in camps and battlefields speaks volumes for the actual fear and evil he oozed. There will never be another Hitler, he is one of a kind.



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08 Aug 2010, 10:46 am

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Adolf Hitler was a man who had many faults, society treated him like complete crap, his mother died while he was young (reported weeks ago that it was actually a Jewish doctor who treated his mother at the time of her death). Hitler's behaviour was totallly justified for a man that had mental health issues, and getting many other men to kill millions of Jews and soldiers in camps and battlefields speaks volumes for the actual fear and evil he oozed. There will never be another Hitler, he is one of a kind.


It becomes clear now why you have no concern over the use of his name on small children. You should probably study a little deeper into the subject before you decide that Hitler's actions were at all "justified" regardless of his mental state. Whether his sick mother was treated by a jew or not is completely irrelevant to his later genocide. She was NOT treated by a Slav, a Romany, a Homosexual, a disabled person, or an intellectual who happened to be more intelligent than Adolf, and plenty of all of those went to the camps. Sounds like neo-nazi rightwing apologist BS to me. (And for the record, I already HAVE studied deeply into the subject.)

As for one of a kind: Polpot, Stalin, Mugabe any number of Serbians..I could go on. Mass-murder is not uncommon. Nor are crackpot dictators. The major difference is the degree of severity. It is as much through the work of Hitler and his industrialised Genocide that such an event has not happened again on such a scale, and that generally such behaviour receives short shrift from the rest of the world. Does not make him unique, or even likely to be the last, but it does mean that another "Hitler" is unlikely to cause so much damage.


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08 Aug 2010, 11:03 am

Craig28 wrote:
Adolf Hitler was a man who had many faults, society treated him like complete crap, his mother died while he was young (reported weeks ago that it was actually a Jewish doctor who treated his mother at the time of her death). Hitler's behaviour was totallly justified for a man that had mental health issues, and getting many other men to kill millions of Jews and soldiers in camps and battlefields speaks volumes for the actual fear and evil he oozed. There will never be another Hitler, he is one of a kind.


Are you seriously trying to defend Hitler, or just trying to show you know how to play devil's advocate in a philosophical argument?