Brutally attack an Aspie, get let off with community service

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/cr ... 75479.html

An earlier case from the same area. THIS is a more fitting sentence to apply. The fact that the victim in the "torture" case failed to die is what prevented it from being treated as a proper crime. The message is, of course that you can't KILL a "ret*d", but you can torture one. Glad that's all clear then.

This judge is very inconsiderate. I am wondering if he was bribbed.

All three of these men need a minimum of six months in jail and the eighty hours of community service.

In the United States, were I live, a boy with aspergers syndrome was punched and kicked in the hall by another teenager in my town.

The attacking teenager was charged for attempted murder but got the sentence reduced to a year in juvenile hall for assault. He was also expelled from the public school with no chance of going back.

One reason I like being an American. (In addition to gun-loving rednecks that would defend us in any invasion).

What. Seriously, how did they just get away with community service? Then again, although I'm not expert an on what the punishment system is, and a search only came up with stuff from a couple of years ago, this is a typical punishment for someone who commits assault in the UK on an NT, assuming it doesn't count as a hate crime (which this should have). I'm assuming that they don't have a prior conviction though.
I agree that the sentence needs to be harsher, as I think that the things I said were about aggravated assault or battery(I think, I can't find much information about the subject, but I'm pretty certain that this is what it would count as). The punishment that techn0teen suggested is the maximum over here from what I can gather (and I think a more punishment for Actual Bodily Harm), but I agree that a custodial sentence should have been given, even if it wasn't a hate crime (which it most likely is), especialy given the nature of their attacks (bear in mind that they filmed their attack) and the attack itself which actually looks like something beyond assault to me (but I'm not an expert).

Bear in mind that in the UK you can face up to six months inside for non-payment of council tax or being cruel to your pets.

Many judges in this nation sit in their Ivory towers and spout a load of toss about what they consider to be justice. It's rare to hear of a judge being severely beaten, but one can live in hope that it might happen, thus giving them a better perspective.

http://www.thestar.co.uk/doncaster/Yout ... 6587884.jp

Here again, nobody prosecuted. So more and more it becomes clear that attacking the disabled is a perfectly legitimate pastime carrying very little official censure.

While I'm certainly not a huge fan of what happened, I must say I'm not a huge fan of the hate I'm seeing here.

1 Peter 3:9 Do not repay evil with evil or insult with insult, but with blessing, because to this you were called so that you may inherit a blessing.

To hate is to stoop to their level.

Not all of us are being hateful...Most of us just want to the rule of law to be applied which in this case, was not.

We could turn the other cheek, and these people would merely kick us in that as well, because the law allows them to do it virtually without censure. Being "blessed" doesn't stop you from being killed, or your killer walking away laughing.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-h ... s-11595275

Of course torturing an NT is the HEIGHT of criminality, and THESE men had a reason for it: non payment of debt, rather than boredom. Which is more malicious?

All I want to ask you is have you lived it? Have you had the crap beaten out of you for no reason whatsoever? Did every single male you know think you were gay and wouldn't let you forget it, to the point of you wanting to kill yourself to shut them the crap up? Like I said, I'm not a huge fan of the fact that a kid got murdered. I also have a serious issue with people who have this inner compulsion to repay hate with hate. If you've lived it, I'm sorry and I'll shut up, because at that point it becomes your decision.

Have I been kicked in the face? Yes. Have I had the crap beaten out of me for no reason whatesoever? (Or at least no reason I could ever identify?) Yes. Can't say that I've ever had a problem with being thought "gay", which sounds a little specific. I'm fully aware of what it is like to be on the end of a merciless kicking. I've also returned the favour and handed out a kicking or two for people who have thought to attack me in such a fashion, and a most satisfying experience it is as well. More so, many of those who thought to attack me once never tried it again after I retaliated in kind. Some people, no matter what thoughts of mercy and goodwill you might harbour, will ONLY learn by the application of brute force and fear. Its one of the reasons we HAVE a justice system and Police....because for many it is the ONLY thing that prevents them from all manner of deadly acts. When our justice system acts like this, it makes criminals believe that it is fine to assault people because there will be no comeback.

My only question: Is this sentence in the normal range typical for the crime in that country/state? It's easy to overreact when someone gets off easy after assaulting a minority, but no one complains if both people involved were white, male, NTs. And frankly, the thing about assault, is some times it's provoked, or might be unclear who started it.

As for that kid who got killed in one blow, he was drunk and the report doesn't mention how the altercation occured. There could be any number of reasons that no ones being charged. As far as we know, the kid swung first, which makes it self defense.

No. As is traditional in this area, his only crime was to answer back. Thus it has always been the case. The single punch that killed him wasn't the only punch thrown, and "drunk" is not a legal term, nor even a measure of inebriation. He was one and a half times the limit for driving, which is not actually a massive amount of alcohol. It cannot be said he was "drunk". And the assault was carried out by at least 4 individuals. This was not "self-defence".

Events like this are a continuous and constant problem in this area, and have been for decades, so much so that very few attacks get reported. Not worth the effort, because South Yorkshire Police are a joke and utterly disinterested.

Lets be even more clear. "Assault" because someone responded when you called them a "spacker" (insert your own insult to choice) is not the same as "Torture for three days." and is not "Kill someone."

Macbeth wrote;

Same in the US and I agree that a good pummeling might just give them a new outlook.

On the other hand, though, don’t wait for the law or courts to do everything. The simple fact is that weakness invites attack and always will regardless of the law. There won’t be a cop there to do anything about it most of the time, anyway. Sometimes fighting back is the only answer.

Coyotes catch, kill, and eat jackrabbits because no coyote has ever been kicked in the nuts by a jackrabbit.

I have suffered all that (for being Aspie- I am not gay) and I think they (the bullies)should be given a taste of their own medicine.BTW Aspies suffer more bullying than gays and don`t have the support and community and media outrage gays get when they are badly treated.


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All I want to ask you is have you lived it? Have you had the crap beaten out of you for no reason whatsoever? Did every single male you know think you were gay and wouldn't let you forget it, to the point of you wanting to kill yourself to shut them the crap up? Like I said, I'm not a huge fan of the fact that a kid got murdered. I also have a serious issue with people who have this inner compulsion to repay hate with hate. If you've lived it, I'm sorry and I'll shut up, because at that point it becomes your decision.[/quote]

Ha. Well, kids get assaulted every day. Do we have to make a difference just because this time, it happens to be a kid with Asperger's who's the victim? It's just as horrible otherwise.

I can't stand how they call it "crimes against disabled people". It's not a disability, it's your character.

We don't need to protest against the bullying of kids with Asperger's: we have to protest against bullying of kids in general... if we're going to protest against this. I won't sign this petition because then we'd have to open up a petition every time a bullying victim gets assaulted and the bullies get a weak punishment, in order to be fair.