Victim stands up to a bully and gets suspended

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One of my friends in high school fought back and they both got suspended for about 3 days. Thankfully, my friend's parents took his side.

during one bullying incident in junior high school, the vice-principal shoved-away the bully that was attacking me, then in front of the bully and his buddies, lit into me for being a "shamefully effeminate nancy boy" and "sissie" and "pantywaist!" and "worthless slacker!"- his audience of punks watched mr. vp chew me out and were mirthfully appreciative at my expense. mr. big vice principal further harangued me with, "if you don't shape up and grow some spine and get a clue real quick, you won't even survive in high school!" of course, the bullies were never corrected. the fact that many schools [especially in the bible belt] tacitly support bullies is because the communities they serve, by and large, believe in dog-eat-dog social darwinism, and they collectively hate the thought of any kind of spiritually enlightened social order taking its place, because that would mean they'd have to evolve spiritually instead of remaining as moral mediocrities. as long as a critical mass of adults wants more cold pricklies, that is what they will get, with plenty left over for the rest of us.

Bring a cross and exersizism book. I thought the folks were deranged after going from private Christian school to public high school. Sex this, body part that, foul word here and gay this and that. Never once did I hear the phrase bloody hell until I found the autism online.

(laugh snort)

Well, I doubt anyone is going to bully that kid again after seeing what he can do to obnoxious little sh*ts.

Unfortunately for me, I was always small and scrawny as a kid. I'm bigger now, but in middle school when the bullying was the worst, I was one of the smallest kids at school and didn't have the "body slam the as*hole into pavement" option available to me.

My husband once pushed the kid in a mud puddle because he was a bully and fully deserved it. The principal just laughed at him and told him how lucky he is how my husband didn't hurt him and he shoved him instead. But unfortunately she had to suspend him because of school policy they had. Do violence, you're suspended. Even my in laws laughed about it and they didn't punish him.

If my son did a thing like that to a bully, I'd tell him enjoy his time off.

It could be me but I might have missed it if someone had. No one suggested running to the school office, calling 911 or yelling for help. Seems to be a bit of a cycle of violence and if folks watched the video you would see if the child was slammed a bit different he could have been paralyzed for life, brain damaged or dead on arrival.

People with AS / ASD don't want to be stigmatized yet some parents here and others with ASD are congratulating violence (eye for an eye). My post stands out like a sore thumb as the saying goes. Don't blame me for saying the truth.

No, because none of those options generally work when it comes to bullying. Bystanders usually just stand and watch and the principle and generally don't do anything either.



This is not a case of people with ASD congratulating violence and a lot of NT people have given the same response to that video when it was shown on Facebook. Quite frankly, I would encourage anyone to defend themselves if violence was used against them in an un-provoked attack and that often involves responding to violence with violence.

You clearly don't know how bad bullying can get.

I don't think that's the case at all.
It's not an eye for an eye, he's just reacting to something that's pushed his buttons too much, he's defending himself.

If you look at the boy being bullied in that film, you can clearly see from his body language that it's not the first time it's happened; he's just standing there taking it and it's not just verbal bullying it's full on physically violent bullying.

I think it's quite telling also, that someone is filming it, they've set it up so they can have a record of their bullying behaviour and probably put it on youtube later; whether they knew he would react the way he did, who knows.

He snapped and lost control in that moment, and ok he went over board in what he did, but the other child punched him more than once.

It takes a really, really strong person to take that kind of abuse and not eventually snap. He probably isn't a violent child, but being prodded and poked consistently brings out the worst in most people.

I don't think people are congratulating him for the violence he displayed, but are relieved to see the bully being taught a lesson (a harsh lesson at that, but he should have known better). If he reacted to it in a verbal manner and managed to make the bully feel 2 foot tall, then those of us who watched it and defended the boy being bullied, I think our reactions would be exactly the same.

At first I thought the big kid was the actual bully, but I actually ended up cheering when Casey (the big kid) lifted the little bastard up. Casey's expression was priceless. At least the most positive thing that came out of it was that the little beanstalk has ended up becoming an eternal internet moron and loser.
Edit: It doesn't surprise me if that tiny kid was simply set up to get hurt by other kids who are bullying him as well.

It's so easy to assume someone who is big are bullies because usually bullies who are big do bully so it puts a stigma on others who are big too but aren't bullies.

This was also posted at Babycenter and tons of people there were also for violence in that situation and were also saying how they were bullied too as kids and would get in trouble for standing up for themselves. They also said how they took their kid somewhere when they got suspended and the guy there who is aspie said he would take his kid to Disney World. Yeah even NTs hate bullies too and also say ignoring them doesn't work. Violence would be the last step I would take and also let my son take too if he were getting bullied. Mom always stood by my side when I get in fights with my bullies. I never hurt them but I hit them and stuff. I always told them to leave me alone and I would walk away and they just follow me and keep bothering me and finally I would hit them when they wouldn't leave me alone. They told me to make them anyway.

That's a good point. The big kid needs to learn a way to defend himself that doesn't risk permanent damage. A far better way for him to have handled it- while still teaching the little kid a lesson- would have been to grab the kid's arms and shove him backwards. Or maybe punch him in the stomach. Either of those actions would have vuiolently stopped him without damaging him. The big kid slammed with enough force to break the bully's ankle which means that if he had hit his head on the nearby bench with that much force this would have a very different outcome. And people probably wouldn't be cheering the big kid on even though he acted in self defense.

There is a middle ground between just standing there taking it and reacting with enough force to truly damage the other person, risking both injury to the bully and depending on the level of injury, risking jail time or juvie depending on age.

This kid was punched in the face twice. He acted to ensure he didn't get hit again. It would be clear self defense in adult court. The aggressor doesn't get to call foul... he's bigger than me, he should know better... the little snot should have considered the consequences when that gentle giant he's been picking on finally snaps. The brat was counting on this kid to NOT fight back. Too bad.

Sure I do. Yet remember kids are just kids. If violence is just the solution then so is injury which may end up grave. If it's payback that is the first instinct that's pathological. I don't see many educated, responsible and wise conflict management solutions here. What I see is danger creating more danger and if this philosophy suggested were to be standard we'd have more dead and seriously injured even for life children no matter who started it in the world. I've been man handled, punch in the face twice and just stood there just like in the video then responded and I never responded in a way that came close to grave injury. Know where to hit, know how to scare and how to get away when able and you got yourself good intention and not mal-intention.

I'll go further then most here: it's good that he responded with enough force to do some damage. That little punk has learned his lesson the painful way, and the bystanders have a serious warning about the potential consequences of acting like as*holes. If the bully had merely been shoved aside, or gotten a punch in the gut, he would be back again the next day. And the next. If you're going to resort to violence, it has to be sharp enough that people get the message.

The victim here took multiple punches before retaliating. It was clear self-defense, and if bones had been broken he would still be in the right. Notice at the end that one of the bully's buddies moved toward the victim, trying to start a fight, and the bigger kid just walked away. He clearly was not acting out of malice.

Also, what draelynn said: if these were adults and something like this happened, the bigger kid would have had a completely solid self-defense case in court. When you are cornered and attacked, you are under no legal or moral obligation to show any regard for the safety of your assailant.

So what your saying would apply if a little kid with behavioral problems and who also has autism were to lash out on an N.T by punching him the big guy could seriously injure the individual with ASD and it would be ok.