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26 Jul 2011, 11:11 pm

The police are just common thugs with badges, that is why I don't trust the police. They acted like thugs in New Orleans in 2005.


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30 Jul 2011, 12:12 am

Tragic, but nothing new. The police have been harassing mentally handicapped people nearly as long as they have been harassing non-whites, the perfect job for bullies.



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31 Jul 2011, 12:43 am

In Spokane, WA., a mentally ill man named Otto Zehm had been suspected one night of tampering with an ATM machine (he in fact wasn't), when cops located him at a nearby convenience store. The police approached him when his back was turned, and tazed him, after which they beat him and hog tied him. Leaving him bound for a long period of time, they put a respirator mask on him - but failed to turn on the oxygen. Mr. Zehm died from suffocation. For months after, the Spokane police had publicly claimed Zehm had attacked the officers, all the while suppressing the store security tape. When the surveillance tape was finally released due to a suit, we in the Spokane area were outraged by what we saw. Even the coroner's report came back with the verdict of homicide.
Wouldn't you know it, the internal investigation by the police cleared the arresting officers. I believe the case is still open, and needless to say, the public's trust in the police around here has been damaged.

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31 Jul 2011, 12:17 pm

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In Spokane, WA., a mentally ill man named Otto Zehm had been suspected one night of tampering with an ATM machine (he in fact wasn't), when cops located him at a nearby convenience store. The police approached him when his back was turned, and tazed him, after which they beat him and hog tied him. Leaving him bound for a long period of time, they put a respirator mask on him - but failed to turn on the oxygen. Mr. Zehm died from suffocation. For months after, the Spokane police had publicly claimed Zehm had attacked the officers, all the while suppressing the store security tape. When the surveillance tape was finally released due to a suit, we in the Spokane area were outraged by what we saw. Even the coroner's report came back with the verdict of homicide.
Wouldn't you know it, the internal investigation by the police cleared the arresting officers. I believe the case is still open, and needless to say, the public's trust in the police around here has been damaged.

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That is really awful!! And they cleared them, sounds like the guy was a target.


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01 Aug 2011, 11:49 am

I wonder why the cops pulled the mentally-handicapped boy for in the first place. Did they think he was a thief or gangster? I think cops need to be more analytical (determine whether someone is doing something really illegal) before the start shouting, kicking, punching and tasering people to death. Second, I think it is very illogical for a cop to aggressively shout at and intimidate someone just because you don't understand what the person is saying.



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01 Aug 2011, 1:23 pm

You have to remember - - in order to qualify for being a cop, you can't score overly high on the IQ test.

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01 Aug 2011, 3:15 pm

Alot of the bites of news that I've been hearing on these matters recently suggests two things. That many of the police (not all) in the U.S. are dimwits, and the U.S. is becoming a police state.



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01 Aug 2011, 9:11 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
In Spokane, WA., a mentally ill man named Otto Zehm had been suspected one night of tampering with an ATM machine (he in fact wasn't), when cops located him at a nearby convenience store. The police approached him when his back was turned, and tazed him, after which they beat him and hog tied him. Leaving him bound for a long period of time, they put a respirator mask on him - but failed to turn on the oxygen. Mr. Zehm died from suffocation. For months after, the Spokane police had publicly claimed Zehm had attacked the officers, all the while suppressing the store security tape. When the surveillance tape was finally released due to a suit, we in the Spokane area were outraged by what we saw. Even the coroner's report came back with the verdict of homicide.
Wouldn't you know it, the internal investigation by the police cleared the arresting officers. I believe the case is still open, and needless to say, the public's trust in the police around here has been damaged.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


I wonder if any cops in the area, especially the killers will become hood or trunk ornaments as the citizens are outraged and the citizens will start to fight back with motor vehicles with 4 or more wheels, as vehicles make effective weapons. In vehicles that have a poor window rearview with all backing aids and warnings disabled, Reverse is your best friend as you can always say it was an accident when you back over that cop.


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01 Aug 2011, 9:18 pm

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In Spokane, WA., a mentally ill man named Otto Zehm had been suspected one night of tampering with an ATM machine (he in fact wasn't), when cops located him at a nearby convenience store. The police approached him when his back was turned, and tazed him, after which they beat him and hog tied him. Leaving him bound for a long period of time, they put a respirator mask on him - but failed to turn on the oxygen. Mr. Zehm died from suffocation. For months after, the Spokane police had publicly claimed Zehm had attacked the officers, all the while suppressing the store security tape. When the surveillance tape was finally released due to a suit, we in the Spokane area were outraged by what we saw. Even the coroner's report came back with the verdict of homicide.
Wouldn't you know it, the internal investigation by the police cleared the arresting officers. I believe the case is still open, and needless to say, the public's trust in the police around here has been damaged.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



I wonder if any cops in the area, especially the killers will become hood or trunk ornaments as the citizens are outraged and the citizens will start to fight back with motor vehicles with 4 or more wheels, as vehicles make effective weapons. In vehicles that have a poor window rearview with all backing aids and warnings disabled, Reverse is your best friend as you can always say it was an accident when you back over that cop.


I don't think anyone is going to physically take on cops anywhere these days. Not with the legal repercussions.

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01 Aug 2011, 9:33 pm

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In Spokane, WA., a mentally ill man named Otto Zehm had been suspected one night of tampering with an ATM machine (he in fact wasn't), when cops located him at a nearby convenience store. The police approached him when his back was turned, and tazed him, after which they beat him and hog tied him. Leaving him bound for a long period of time, they put a respirator mask on him - but failed to turn on the oxygen. Mr. Zehm died from suffocation. For months after, the Spokane police had publicly claimed Zehm had attacked the officers, all the while suppressing the store security tape. When the surveillance tape was finally released due to a suit, we in the Spokane area were outraged by what we saw. Even the coroner's report came back with the verdict of homicide.
Wouldn't you know it, the internal investigation by the police cleared the arresting officers. I believe the case is still open, and needless to say, the public's trust in the police around here has been damaged.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



I wonder if any cops in the area, especially the killers will become hood or trunk ornaments as the citizens are outraged and the citizens will start to fight back with motor vehicles with 4 or more wheels, as vehicles make effective weapons. In vehicles that have a poor window rearview with all backing aids and warnings disabled, Reverse is your best friend as you can always say it was an accident when you back over that cop.


You could wear a full body rubber suit and face mask and temporarily remove or obscure the registration, license plates, and any distinctive markings on a common vehicle, they might not be able to find out who did it as they can't identify who did it. You probably wouldn't want to hit a cop in a car that there isn't many of, as there wouldn't be that many for the police to choose from before they find the right one.

I don't think anyone is going to physically take on cops anywhere these days. Not with the legal repercussions.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


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01 Aug 2011, 11:03 pm

wow. not all cops are bad, but some are. I think they need to do more to make sure these people understand what they're doing and test their ability to make sound judgements under stress to be honest. I think that inability to handle stressful situations well is what leads to many of these problems. combine that with a pack mentality and everything will go to crap real quick.



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02 Aug 2011, 8:27 pm

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wow. not all cops are bad, but some are. I think they need to do more to make sure these people understand what they're doing and test their ability to make sound judgements under stress to be honest. I think that inability to handle stressful situations well is what leads to many of these problems. combine that with a pack mentality and everything will go to crap real quick.


It would be a good idea for fire all the bad cops and replace them with Aspies as they have brains, and most cops act like they're all brawn and no brains.


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02 Aug 2011, 10:56 pm

I was just watching Lawrence O'Donnell on MSNBC, who suggested if we test teachers, why don't we test cops, who have had a bad reputation of committing violence and murder.

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03 Aug 2011, 9:16 pm

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I was just watching Lawrence O'Donnell on MSNBC, who suggested if we test teachers, why don't we test cops, who have had a bad reputation of committing violence and murder.

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Why not do the same to people in the military, as some take "Strength through Joy" too literally.


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03 Aug 2011, 9:36 pm

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Kraichgauer wrote:
I was just watching Lawrence O'Donnell on MSNBC, who suggested if we test teachers, why don't we test cops, who have had a bad reputation of committing violence and murder.

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Why not do the same to people in the military, as some take "Strength through Joy" too literally.


what does that mean??


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03 Aug 2011, 9:44 pm

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greengeek wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
I was just watching Lawrence O'Donnell on MSNBC, who suggested if we test teachers, why don't we test cops, who have had a bad reputation of committing violence and murder.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Why not do the same to people in the military, as some take "Strength through Joy" too literally.


what does that mean??


Some of them kill and otherwise abuse innocent people, and that give the military a bad name. They might think that killing innocent people is good for the cause, and that it's also enjoyable for them too. It has happened during this war the Americans are fighting.


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