cancer cure? for real? Burzynski.
oldmantime wrote:
agfa wrote:
electric cars - good
cancer cure - bad
cancer cure - bad
aren't E cars worse due to the batteries?
In what respect? Batteries are actually clean. Their only potential danger comes from the shoddy ways that they are dealt with after they have expired, and the fossil fuels that are burnt in most cases to generate that electricity. But of course, we all know we don't need to burn anything to generate electricity, don't we? If designed to last and with recyclability in mind batteries will be the cleanest method of propulsion energy that can be employed in automotive transport.
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Adam-Anti-Um wrote:
oldmantime wrote:
agfa wrote:
electric cars - good
cancer cure - bad
cancer cure - bad
aren't E cars worse due to the batteries?
In what respect? Batteries are actually clean. Their only potential danger comes from the shoddy ways that they are dealt with after they have expired, and the fossil fuels that are burnt in most cases to generate that electricity. But of course, we all know we don't need to burn anything to generate electricity, don't we? If designed to last and with recyclability in mind batteries will be the cleanest method of propulsion energy that can be employed in automotive transport.
Electric cars with batteries should be fine. Besides, as long as we are talking about being practical, is it practical to have such urban sprawl to the point that millions of cars are forced to be on the road? Cars don't have to be the primary means of transportation. I'll bet if you reduced urban sprawl, you could probably have a train type system that has little to no friction to hold back the speed, considering how much technology has been held back because of profit. We all recognize this to some extent or another, but for some reason we are afraid to take the next step past ":People need to do something" Are we afraid of looking stupid or what? Oh wait...
Mindslave wrote:
Electric cars with batteries should be fine. Besides, as long as we are talking about being practical, is it practical to have such urban sprawl to the point that millions of cars are forced to be on the road? Cars don't have to be the primary means of transportation. I'll bet if you reduced urban sprawl, you could probably have a train type system that has little to no friction to hold back the speed, considering how much technology has been held back because of profit. We all recognize this to some extent or another, but for some reason we are afraid to take the next step past ":People need to do something" Are we afraid of looking stupid or what? Oh wait...
I couldn't agree more. People are afraid to take the first steps towards a different train of thought. But that is how we learn. By trying new things.
The urban sprawl problem has always been a patchwork issue. Cities were never designed to be efficient.
And you're absolutely right when you talk about public transport alleiviating the problem of urban sprawl. The only problem currently is that THAT was never designed to be efficient either. In essense it is the veryt monetary paradigm itself that needs to be outgrown.
That is why I wholeheartedly advocate Dr. Burzynski's work. Coz there's no money in a cancer cure. The money is in treatments that don't solve the problem. There's no money in health. The money is in poor health.
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Adam-Anti-Um wrote:
Mindslave wrote:
Electric cars with batteries should be fine. Besides, as long as we are talking about being practical, is it practical to have such urban sprawl to the point that millions of cars are forced to be on the road? Cars don't have to be the primary means of transportation. I'll bet if you reduced urban sprawl, you could probably have a train type system that has little to no friction to hold back the speed, considering how much technology has been held back because of profit. We all recognize this to some extent or another, but for some reason we are afraid to take the next step past ":People need to do something" Are we afraid of looking stupid or what? Oh wait...
I couldn't agree more. People are afraid to take the first steps towards a different train of thought. But that is how we learn. By trying new things.
The urban sprawl problem has always been a patchwork issue. Cities were never designed to be efficient.
And you're absolutely right when you talk about public transport alleiviating the problem of urban sprawl. The only problem currently is that THAT was never designed to be efficient either. In essense it is the veryt monetary paradigm itself that needs to be outgrown.
That is why I wholeheartedly advocate Dr. Burzynski's work. Coz there's no money in a cancer cure. The money is in treatments that don't solve the problem. There's no money in health. The money is in poor health.
taking hours to do what is done in minutes in a car is no solution to anything.
public transportation isn't the issue, the lack of job stability and the crappy nature of cities which leads to people not wanting to move close to work is the problem.
Adam-Anti-Um wrote:
oldmantime wrote:
agfa wrote:
electric cars - good
cancer cure - bad
cancer cure - bad
aren't E cars worse due to the batteries?
In what respect? Batteries are actually clean. Their only potential danger comes from the shoddy ways that they are dealt with after they have expired, and the fossil fuels that are burnt in most cases to generate that electricity. But of course, we all know we don't need to burn anything to generate electricity, don't we? If designed to last and with recyclability in mind batteries will be the cleanest method of propulsion energy that can be employed in automotive transport.
well, they don't last long and the recycling is usually done in a way that poisons the environment and people.
riverso wrote:
To Adam-Anti-Um
Good luck to you, you're a seeker of truth.
Some of the responses you've had, sound like quotes from "Mein Kampf".
Good luck to you, you're a seeker of truth.
Some of the responses you've had, sound like quotes from "Mein Kampf".
Prima facie associations are rather childish. Give them a rest.
Mindslave wrote:
Well, if we have time to get rid of money, we have time to build better cities. Sometimes putting in a little extra work makes all the difference in the world. We just don't apply this to the largest scale.
Exactly.
oldmantime wrote:
taking hours to do what is done in minutes in a car is no solution to anything.
public transportation isn't the issue, the lack of job stability and the crappy nature of cities which leads to people not wanting to move close to work is the problem.
Ok, you obviously haven't grasped how efficient and fast the public transportation systems can be. For example monorail and maglev train systems.
I'll tell you what is causing job "instability". Its the development of automated systems and technological machines that displace human labour because the machines can do it faster, more efficient, with far higher accuracy, and, not to mention, at a cheaper price. Technology has been steadily making jobs obsolete ever since we first developed it. Its called Technological unemployment. And unlike with any public transport system, or even any wave of immigration, technology is permanently phasing jobs out.
As such, in a monetary system, which requires human labour to humans in jobs, so they can be paid money to purchase their means of survival, hense keeping currency circulating, you have every right to fear machines. However in the system that I advocate, a Resource-Based Economic Model, machines free human beings from chores and problems. Allowing them to concentrate on the more important and more educating and fulfilling things in life.
In such a system, you wouldn't have the crappy jobs, OR the crappy cities. Human beings have far more potential than merely being used as slave workers so a system of exploitation and cancerous growth can keep going. We're better than that.
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well, they don't last long and the recycling is usually done in a way that poisons the environment and people.
What dated versions of the battery technology are you basing that on?
And I have already said that the current disposal methods are far from acceptable. You know batteries can be designed and manufactured to be completely recyclable, right?
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