Delivery driver throws flat screen TV

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23 Dec 2011, 9:57 pm

I think the media is putting out all this bad press against fed ex and UPS in order to try to save the US postal service.


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23 Dec 2011, 10:41 pm

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I think the media is putting out all this bad press against fed ex and UPS in order to try to save the US postal service.


Then I gotta say, I'm all for slamming private delivery services.

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23 Dec 2011, 11:18 pm

i seem to remember seeing a bread delivery truck with the motto [directed towards the driver] "drive carefully- the buns you save may be your own!" the delivery driver who manhandled that tv monitor needs to remember that it could just as well have been his own tv set getting manhandled by some other careless driver.



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24 Dec 2011, 4:50 am

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My husband ordered a cup online and when it arrived, it arrived in two pieces. My husband had to ask for a replacement and he sent it back.
I wonder if the package got thrown?

Let's hope there was nothing fragile in the package the UPS guy tossed on the ground.

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I bet if they hired more people things like that wouldn't happen. Gotta think about the stock!



You make it sound like it was acceptable.


I don't see how you got that out of that comment. You have to understand the stress a delivery guy is under constantly, and especially during peak season. If they had more people to cover the routes, they wouldn't be in a hurry and stressed as much. But they won't because "that's logistics"



But do you think it's right what he did?



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24 Dec 2011, 4:57 am

snapcap wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
My husband ordered a cup online and when it arrived, it arrived in two pieces. My husband had to ask for a replacement and he sent it back.
I wonder if the package got thrown?

Let's hope there was nothing fragile in the package the UPS guy tossed on the ground.

snapcap wrote:
I bet if they hired more people things like that wouldn't happen. Gotta think about the stock!



You make it sound like it was acceptable.


I don't see how you got that out of that comment. You have to understand the stress a delivery guy is under constantly, and especially during peak season. If they had more people to cover the routes, they wouldn't be in a hurry and stressed as much. But they won't because "that's logistics"


No, I don't think it is "logistics"....it's a matter of bread & butter. I previously listed the Fedex "business model" for delivery drivers in this thread. ANY packages delivered on a drivers route NOT by that "route owner" he won't get paid for....period. Add that to the fact that these poor schmucks get NO medical or dental benefits; have to purchase their OWN vehicle insurance, fuel etc & so on...INDENTURED SERVANTS is a term that pops in my mind.

HOWEVER, having said all of that, what this particular driver did was just stupid. He needs to be fired on princepal alone.



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24 Dec 2011, 5:19 am

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViInV_raeXk[/youtube]


So this is what brown is really doing for us...



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24 Dec 2011, 12:02 pm

Right, and so that's what Fox is really doing for us...

Notice they felt the need to show it FOUR times IN 46 seconds? :roll:

That's just ridiculous.


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24 Dec 2011, 12:55 pm

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snapcap wrote:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViInV_raeXk[/youtube]


So this is what brown is really doing for us...


The post office really needs to use these two videos in their future TV commercial spots for why they're still relevant.

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24 Dec 2011, 12:57 pm

League_Girl wrote:
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League_Girl wrote:
My husband ordered a cup online and when it arrived, it arrived in two pieces. My husband had to ask for a replacement and he sent it back.
I wonder if the package got thrown?

Let's hope there was nothing fragile in the package the UPS guy tossed on the ground.

snapcap wrote:
I bet if they hired more people things like that wouldn't happen. Gotta think about the stock!



You make it sound like it was acceptable.


I don't see how you got that out of that comment. You have to understand the stress a delivery guy is under constantly, and especially during peak season. If they had more people to cover the routes, they wouldn't be in a hurry and stressed as much. But they won't because "that's logistics"



But do you think it's right what he did?


No but he was pressed for time. If the shipping companies handed out more relaxed routes, this sort of thing would be extremely rare. Peak season, which is the season we're in, is very stressful, and these videos were taking in peak season, so what does that tell you?



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24 Dec 2011, 3:08 pm

The real destroyer of high definition television is John McCain. When he gave away those free digital convertor boxes he insisted on crippling the high definition signal by only allowing it to output a low definition picture.



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24 Dec 2011, 10:00 pm

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The real destroyer of high definition television is John McCain. When he gave away those free digital convertor boxes he insisted on crippling the high definition signal by only allowing it to output a low definition picture.

:huh:
the intended use for those devices was with std-def analog tv sets. feeding such lodef sets a hidef signal would've been for naught if such signal could not be displayed on said sets. this said, there was a lot of variability in the quality of those converter boxes, with some providing a sub-vhs quality picture while a few provided DVD quality video.



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25 Dec 2011, 12:41 am

What the driver did was wrong, but seriously, there is no way to handle high volume packages without throwing, moving quickly etc. I worked as a temp at a UPS, and also have shipped lots of things selling stuff on ebay. Nothing is going to be handle gently, it's not possible, it's all about time. I have mailed fragile items using different services with enough peanuts, bubble wrap, double boxed, and hardly ever go anything broken, but I assure the stuff was all handled roughly.

As far as suing, the stuff should be insured, and you get the value of the item, no need to sue, and all this talk about giving fed ex hell over it, well, it was one guy, not the whole company, why give other people grief because of one idiot?

As far as comparing services, I have had hundreds of bad post office experiences, heck had a half a dozen ridiculously bad experiences with the post office just in the last year, but that can really vary dependent on the people at your local post office. Like any business, a few cranky, snarly, lazy types with an enormous sense of entitlement can make the whole group act badly.



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25 Dec 2011, 1:36 am

The intention of a digital tuner is to give people free access to over the air high definition television broadcasting. Millions of high definition televisions were sold without digital tuners before the government required these devices to be installed in every television. Yet the government insisted on crippling the digital tuner set top boxes so they would not be able to output a 480p, 720p or a 1080i signal rendering an older high definition television useless for receiving a high definition or a standard definition signal but rather only a low definition interlace 480i signal was allowed.



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25 Dec 2011, 2:10 am

snapcap wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
snapcap wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
My husband ordered a cup online and when it arrived, it arrived in two pieces. My husband had to ask for a replacement and he sent it back.
I wonder if the package got thrown?

Let's hope there was nothing fragile in the package the UPS guy tossed on the ground.

snapcap wrote:
I bet if they hired more people things like that wouldn't happen. Gotta think about the stock!



You make it sound like it was acceptable.


I don't see how you got that out of that comment. You have to understand the stress a delivery guy is under constantly, and especially during peak season. If they had more people to cover the routes, they wouldn't be in a hurry and stressed as much. But they won't because "that's logistics"



But do you think it's right what he did?


No but he was pressed for time. If the shipping companies handed out more relaxed routes, this sort of thing would be extremely rare. Peak season, which is the season we're in, is very stressful, and these videos were taking in peak season, so what does that tell you?



That I shouldn't use Fed Ex? Or use it during the holiday season?

I take it this happens often since you mention it be extremely rare if they had more relaxed routes.



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25 Dec 2011, 10:44 am

It's the conservative politicians not the delivery drivers that want to destroy free high definition broadcasting for the poor.



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25 Dec 2011, 1:17 pm

League_Girl wrote:
snapcap wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
snapcap wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
My husband ordered a cup online and when it arrived, it arrived in two pieces. My husband had to ask for a replacement and he sent it back.
I wonder if the package got thrown?

Let's hope there was nothing fragile in the package the UPS guy tossed on the ground.

snapcap wrote:
I bet if they hired more people things like that wouldn't happen. Gotta think about the stock!



You make it sound like it was acceptable.


I don't see how you got that out of that comment. You have to understand the stress a delivery guy is under constantly, and especially during peak season. If they had more people to cover the routes, they wouldn't be in a hurry and stressed as much. But they won't because "that's logistics"



But do you think it's right what he did?


No but he was pressed for time. If the shipping companies handed out more relaxed routes, this sort of thing would be extremely rare. Peak season, which is the season we're in, is very stressful, and these videos were taking in peak season, so what does that tell you?



That I shouldn't use Fed Ex? Or use it during the holiday season?

I take it this happens often since you mention it be extremely rare if they had more relaxed routes.



It happens more often than you know, you only know about it because they happen to be video-tapped by the customer. It's not a FedEx thing, it's a shipping thing. UPS does it, and so does USPS, especially so during peak-season. Yes, I feel that if their routes were more relaxed this sort of thing wouldn't happen nearly as much. I'm not saying that it is an extremely common occurrence, but I've never had any personal experience with this happening to my packages or anyone else I know.

If you think that's bad, I guarantee what you don't see, and never will, is the damages that occur inside the centers, which I'd estimate to be at least 100x the damages that occur because of improper handling by deliverers. And the companies don't receive too much flack for that because they occur out of the eye's of the public, thus no PR or image problems :wink: