Bloomberg to ban something yet again.

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That is some messed up logic, yo.

For one, styrofoam cups don't kill people. They kill many ecosystems. We, as a first world civilization, need to start taking care of the ecosystem. Even though we live far from it, we still rely on it and so does millions of species.

Secondly, birthrates are starting to level off and even decline in many first world countries. Hell, in Japan, a substantial amount of youth consider themselves asexual and have no plans to ever even have sex.

Thirdly, studies have shown that educating females and supplying condoms will lower the birthrate and lower STI's. The solution isn't to allow people to kill themselves, the solution is to give them an education. Give a woman an education, she won't want to have babies. She'll want to go off to college and make a career for herself. By the time she's ready to have a family, she'll have the resources to do so, she will do so intelligently by only have a small family and living within her means.

Abolishing old age pensions or cutting them back using that ghastly propaganda word "entitlement" also serves to encourage people to have children to support them in their old age when there's no pension.

Don't see the connection here?

Actually, people are entitled to social security pensions since they've paid in to it, whether they want to or not, for all of their working lives.
I'm paying into it so I'd better get something out of it.

Might help. Might not.

I think bringing everyone up to the level of developed nations won't really solve much without changing the developed nations themselves -- which won't happen (one car per family -- mandatory buses and trains for people in the suburbs to and from work and school if they live further than walking/biking distance, and all that other jazz along the same lines). Those types of things won't happen, well, I don't think they will.

The soda thing seems pretty stupid... anyone who doesn't want to drink unhealthy drink can choose not to buy them. The nutrition facts are right on the can.

But this foam thing I can see. Companies don't warn people that their products will be shipped in such foam so consumers can't avoid dealing with those companies. And since the only people who WANT to destroy the environment are... well, I'm pretty sure the phrase "people who WANT to destroy the environment" is discrediting enough, so may as well just ban it.

Could you explain how equally sharing all the food produced is not a good idea?

It's a bad idea if in the same breath you tell them what they can and cannot eat, possess, or do.

I can't wait until Hizzhonor bans farting in crowded elevators.

ruveyn

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I like to rip a big one when I'm the only one on the elevator and let the next group enjoy it.

While I hate the idea of banning large soft drinks, it's just as well banning styrofoam. I can't stand the sound it makes!

That by itself shouldn't be a bother. Getting it to the people would be the bother.

It'll be a hard operation, and when I say operation, it'll be a military one (see: Somalia).

AND? Oh look the job is difficult, so let's not bother?
I don't care what obstructions are in the way, there's enough people, money and equipment in the world to get it done.

It would mean going to war because it's politics stopping the food from getting to starving people. Once the war is done and the people temporarily have food, then what? We can't ship free food to them forever. We'd have to build a new government for them.

There's a reason why starvation and poverty is yet to be eradicated. These problems are very, very complex. It's like a chess game between a really good chess player and a grandmaster. With us playing the roll of 'really good chess player' and unintended consequences playing the roll of 'grandmaster'. We must choose our moves wisely.

Keep in mind that for some people it's not so much about giving to the poor as it is taking from the rich and middle class.
They'd just as soon let the food rot on the docks as long as they can rob their imaginary demons of it.

If politics is the problem, it's also the answer. Engage these people, talk to them and help them build a better, secure life and they will help you.


And?


Not particularly when you break it down and remove all the non-important parts.


What negative consequences could happen from eradicating hunger?