Defense attorney dehumanizes the victim

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11 Dec 2013, 4:24 am

If someone hires mercenaries for the purpose of burning the peaceful villagers, I don't have the shrug and say, "well, they were being paid to do it", anymore than I would say "they were only following ze orders". If you get a job in which you behave as scum, then that makes you scum.

The lawyer wasn't being compelled in his actions...



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11 Dec 2013, 6:37 pm

I thought this was about the Kelly Thomas murder trial.



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11 Dec 2013, 6:50 pm

xenon13 wrote:
I thought this was about the Kelly Thomas murder trial.


Funny how a defense attorney can change - at least in the public eye - who's actually on trial.


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11 Dec 2013, 10:57 pm

It's definitely a class war. The lower class person is always on trial. That lawyer said aloud really what the powers that be think. I remember a case where someone sat on Death Row for years after he was not only framed for the killing, but an armed robbery and that framing was done specifically because "someone must die" for the killing of a very important personage. That person sued the District Attorney, won, but Scalia and the Supremes cheated him out of the restitution, stating usual inanities like innocent people don't have the right not to be executed and so forth. Scalia even quoted a case where an innocent person was imprisoned for over a decade because of a Supreme Court decision in which he was involved! The person's innocence was later established when science made up for the damage the DA did to the evidence.



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12 Dec 2013, 11:51 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
xenon13 wrote:
I thought this was about the Kelly Thomas murder trial.


Funny how a defense attorney can change - at least in the public eye - who's actually on trial.


Diverting blame is one of the tactics that a defense attorney can use. He is paid to defend his client -by any means necessary and legally permitted-.

Truth and justice has nothing whatsoever to do with defending the defendant.

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12 Dec 2013, 11:57 am

ruveyn wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
xenon13 wrote:
I thought this was about the Kelly Thomas murder trial.


Funny how a defense attorney can change - at least in the public eye - who's actually on trial.


Diverting blame is one of the tactics that a defense attorney can use. He is paid to defend his client -by any means necessary and legally permitted-.

Truth and justice has nothing whatsoever to do with defending the defendant.

ruveyn


Still, that doesn't mean the rest of us have to approve of it.


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12 Dec 2013, 12:46 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:

Still, that doesn't mean the rest of us have to approve of it.


That is true, so we can sit around telling lawyer jokes.

However if, God forbid, you ever need a lawyer, you are best advised to get one that can get you the best settlement or an acquittal and to hell with truth and justice.

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12 Dec 2013, 1:08 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:

Still, that doesn't mean the rest of us have to approve of it.


That is true, so we can sit around telling lawyer jokes.

However if, God forbid, you ever need a lawyer, you are best advised to get one that can get you the best settlement or an acquittal and to hell with truth and justice.

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I like to think if I ever need a lawyer, I have my innocence to depend on.


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14 Dec 2013, 3:31 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
I like to think if I ever need a lawyer, I have my innocence to depend on.


You're a nice guy, so I sincerely hope that never happens to you, no BS.


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14 Dec 2013, 3:39 am

Dox47 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
I like to think if I ever need a lawyer, I have my innocence to depend on.


You're a nice guy, so I sincerely hope that never happens to you, no BS.


Me too.


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