Another School Shooting

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And is that the same position you take when an autistic child is killed by a parent?

I always wonder in things like this, what we're the circumstances leading up to someone deciding that such violence is an appropriate course of action?
Who cares what kind of weapon was used for violence, what led up to the violence?

I have never struck a person in my life. That includes not spanking my kids. When I was in high school though, I had intensely violent fantasies of revenge against, not only those who had intentionally hurt me, but those that had in no way intervened.

There. I finally said it.

our nation seems unconcerned "outside of a small circle of friends." that is the long and short of it. this will keep happening unless this parochial mindset changes. I am not holding my breath.

Nor am I, honestly. Trying to solve this problem is almost a fools errand in this day and age, parents can't properly discipline their kids, most parents don't teach them the difference between right and wrong (it seems), parents don't watch their kids enough to know who they're hanging out with and what they're doing: any one of these can lead to kids breaking the law in some fashion, more so if their home life is a violent one (abusive parents, drinking/drug problem, etc.). And since no-one can dictate home life to anyone (on grounds of freedoms), it'll never change. It's sad, but that's reality.

Who hasn't? But the difference between the likes of you and I and psychopaths like Adam Lanza is that our fantasies remained only fantasies.

Cite?

arguing over whether or not they are growing in frequency is akin to rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic. the real issue is that they are still happening and that nobody seems to be able to do more than say "but there are more car accidents than school shootings" or some other banal thing [denying there's any real problem] rather than trying in earnest to fix the problem.

Very sound observation, friend Blabby.

The source of most of society's problems seems to be that the majority of people pay for the faults of others more than they pay for their own faults. Few people want to better themselves for the good of a society that they're a victim of, thus we all remain victims of it, some more than others. Life is unfair because everyone wants to be treated fairly, and when they aren't, they feel that others are less entitled to being treated fairly by themselves. The oppression of many people results from this. Oppression is the reason there is so much violence in the world. There is so much violence in the world because everyone collectively lets it happen, and I can guarantee you that it will continue to be that way.

So in your world, lying is okay if you think it's for a good cause?

A counter example: Some people think voter fraud is a widespread problem that undermines the democratic process, and want to make it a little harder to vote in order to combat the "problem". I would argue that it's not a widespread problem requiring a legislative solution but rather a rare and isolated one, but you couldn't make that argument without making a hypocrite out of yourself, because you just said "ignore the actual data, we have to DO something!".

You want to make it harder for people to exercise a right, and yet you can't be bothered to verify the actual frequency of the problem, preferring to just go on emotion instead? Not cool.

so anything that would keep guns out of the hands of madmen is impermissible under any circumstances? so the status quo is the best of all possible worlds?

auntblabbly, I offer you a kindly warning: do not follow down the gun nut rabbit hole. You didn't even say anything about making it "harder for people to exercise a right:" is that what you meant to say?

I said not a thing about making it harder for that particular poster to get his guns or use his guns. I fail to see what is wrong with keeping guns out of the hands of madmen, though.

I think it is quite clear now that Colorado has a serious problem with madmen with guns. Columbine, Aurora, now Arapaho... what about New Hampshire, which has very loose (I would say liberal, but then that might be taken as meaning strict) gun laws? Connecticut had Sandy Hook, Arizona had the Tuscon shootings, but what about places like Texas - the last mass murder I heard about there was committed by the Federales. When was the last school shooting in Alaska? Vermont?

Besides, would this be seen as as big an issue if the shooter had tracked down his target outside of school? Or would it have just been seen as a murder, making the local news but overshadowed by the murders that occurred in Chicago, New York, Detroit etc that same day?

What the hell is up with kids who believe that violence is the solution to anything?

The shooter could have instead used a knife, a club, or one of the Molotov cocktails they found at the school.