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22 May 2014, 3:55 am

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It is so refreshing to know I am not the only one who leaves my phone off most of the time. If someone needs to reach me (which is highly unlikely) they can leave a voice message.


I actually pity these people who have their phone on their ear blah, blah, blah or punching buttons every second they are out in the world. I think people use their phones to hide behind rather than to deal with what is happening in the present moment inside their own minds.



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22 May 2014, 4:57 am

Technology caused introversion means you have to deal with jerks a lot less in your day to day life, most people being glued to their devices. On the other hand, the cultural changes wrought by technology, and other factors are huge, and it bothers me. The 1990's were more anarchic. i'd regularly see punks, hippies, street protests; the variation between person to person seemed a lot greater than it does today. People are becoming far too obedient in their thought and action. I wonder if this is related to the fact that the internet, and especially social media has essentially made a Stasi agent of everyone who uses it. We're all busily constructing the nooses to hang ourselves and each others with, by continually compiling dossiers about ourselves and everyone that we know on social media. I think most people understand this, and that could be what's partially behind this conformity culture. We no longer have to guess at who the informants are. It's everyone.



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22 May 2014, 7:07 am

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Which brings me to my favorite idea for a Reality TV Show, namely put 20 somethings on a farm deep in Amish country with no electricity, no inter web, and especially NO CELL PHONES. Then the clock is started to see who can last the longest....


That's actually a better idea for a zombie-movie in which the survivors flip-out and start killing each other due to their cell-phones and other electronic devices permanently not working anymore. It's probably what would really happen too.



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22 May 2014, 6:59 pm

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We have been slaves to technology every since the invention of the cellular phone. I don't know many people who own a cell phone who would ever leave their home without their cell connection. The more "independent" someone professes to be the more it seems they are chained and enslaved to their "connection." Money be damned, I will not be slave to this BS. I pay $55.00 a month now for cell access that I use less than 5 minutes a month. People say "what if someone is dying and noone can contact you? You must not care as much as me." BS. It has nothing to do with caring. Human beings die, get sick, get hurt, and worse. That is life. That is reality. People survived just fine with death and all other calamities of life long before the invention of the cell phone. Being continuously "connected" is escapism from reality, but maybe some people need that. I don't

http://www.sciencedump.com/content/10-t ... e-humanity


We have been slaves to technology since the invention of the wheel and the plough.

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22 May 2014, 7:44 pm

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Technology caused introversion means you have to deal with jerks a lot less in your day to day life, most people being glued to their devices. On the other hand, the cultural changes wrought by technology, and other factors are huge, and it bothers me. The 1990's were more anarchic. i'd regularly see punks, hippies, street protests; the variation between person to person seemed a lot greater than it does today. People are becoming far too obedient in their thought and action. I wonder if this is related to the fact that the internet, and especially social media has essentially made a Stasi agent of everyone who uses it. We're all busily constructing the nooses to hang ourselves and each others with, by continually compiling dossiers about ourselves and everyone that we know on social media. I think most people understand this, and that could be what's partially behind this conformity culture. We no longer have to guess at who the informants are. It's everyone.


Technology: the great homogenizer of individuality.


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22 May 2014, 7:48 pm

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Technology: the great homogenizer of individuality.

only among the middle and upper classes.



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22 May 2014, 7:56 pm

communications through instant messages is a huge "breakthrough" for me.


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23 May 2014, 1:12 am

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Money be damned, I will not be slave to this BS. I pay $55.00 a month now for cell access that I use less than 5 minutes a month.
http://www.sciencedump.com/content/10-t ... e-humanity


You're being ripped off. I pay 5 Euro a month for a contract phone.
I'm ripping myself off though cause I only ever use it as an alarm clock :roll:
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23 May 2014, 12:03 pm

I'm' posting this from a phone, as most of mine are. Aside from important calls and internet browsing, I can also play a lot of games and record things that I see outside the house. Most importantly, it passes the time when there are places I'm at with nothing else to do. There are a lot of good uses for it, I don't see what the problem is.


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23 May 2014, 12:04 pm

not a problem as long as one has plenty of money and time.



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23 May 2014, 2:35 pm

auntblabby wrote:
Prof_Pretorius wrote:
Technology: the great homogenizer of individuality.

only among the middle and upper classes.


I don't know about that, I once saw a bloke knee deep in a rubbish bin talking on his cell phone.
(And he definitely looked 'homeless'.)


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23 May 2014, 2:36 pm

Prof_Pretorius wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
Prof_Pretorius wrote:
Technology: the great homogenizer of individuality.

only among the middle and upper classes.


I don't know about that, I once saw a bloke knee deep in a rubbish bin talking on his cell phone.
(And he definitely looked 'homeless'.)

only people with sustained money can afford to use smartphones.



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23 May 2014, 3:36 pm

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I'm' posting this from a phone, as most of mine are. Aside from important calls and internet browsing, I can also play a lot of games and record things that I see outside the house. Most importantly, it passes the time when there are places I'm at with nothing else to do. There are a lot of good uses for it, I don't see what the problem is.


I'm surprised you aren't describing how you have coitus with your phone. It seems to be more of a constant diversion and escape from reality. The problem is that you are missing out on life because you are constantly engaged with a device. Out of curiosity, when and if you are in the presence of other human beings, especially those you care for and who care for you, do you still devote your attentions to your device, or do you give your full attention to who is with you at the moment?

I straight up told my family members who bury themselves in text messages, voice mails and emails that they dont care about people in front of their noses as much as they do whoever it is that would rather communicate with them on a machine than in person. Burying ones self in a device as an escape from dealing or interacting with reality is just rude and uncaring. And this coming from me, who absolutely loathes social interaction, but I do not show disrespect or rudeness to those who are in my presence. As much as I don't like interacting with humanity, I still know that being ignored by others is still the most lonesome of existence there is.



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23 May 2014, 4:07 pm

khaoz wrote:
Burying ones self in a device as an escape from dealing or interacting with reality is just rude and uncaring.


Are you aware of the fact that you've simply assumed that "escaping reality" is the reason behind what you consider excessive cell phone usage?

Also, texting, e-mailing, and reviewing voice mails from other people are not things that occur outside of reality. Communicating with other people is part of reality, no matter how it's done.



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23 May 2014, 5:22 pm

starkid wrote:
khaoz wrote:
Burying ones self in a device as an escape from dealing or interacting with reality is just rude and uncaring.


Are you aware of the fact that you've simply assumed that "escaping reality" is the reason behind what you consider excessive cell phone usage?

Also, texting, e-mailing, and reviewing voice mails from other people are not things that occur outside of reality. Communicating with other people is part of reality, no matter how it's done.


Is it ?? I read about a 20something who said she was sick and tired of going out with friends, and at least one person is not present, being totally preoccupied with their texting and otherwise playing with their phone. Is that what society has come to ???


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23 May 2014, 5:34 pm

Prof_Pretorius wrote:
Is it ?? I read about a 20something who said she was sick and tired of going out with friends, and at least one person is not present, being totally preoccupied with their texting and otherwise playing with their phone. Is that what society has come to ???


Your post is incoherent and has no identifiable point, so I cannot respond to it beyond reiterating the obvious: yes, all communication is a part of reality. Those incoming messages and calls certainly aren't occurring in the imagination.