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23 Mar 2007, 10:20 pm

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Mel Gibson is STILL a bigot...


That's nice, so is half the planet.
It really makes me laugh the way such a fuss is made when celebrities do things that half the normal people do anyway.

Anyway, most movies made are not non fictional documentries, they are a fictional story maybe based on a small bit of truth for peoples interest. That lady should "f*ck off" and make her own movie.


That's what I thought. As soon as people have it in their head that he's a bigot they'll use any excuse to pound it into the ground. Anyway, I don't see how in this situation he was racist at all, although I haven't seen Apocalypto.

By the way, Jimservo, I like your avatar (and handle). Whever I read your posts in my head I hear them in Tom Servo's voice.



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23 Mar 2007, 10:26 pm

You can't go into REHAB for committing thought crime. You must be reprogrammed. It is utterly ridiculous to think a twelve-step program can help you overcome your anti-party mental disease. You must subject yourself to constant self-criticisms. If you don't, we will send you to the Gulag.

Seriously, people. There is a double standard at work here. If anyone says anything Anti-whatever EXCEPT Bush/Republican/Christianity then you are EVIL and must be reprogrammed. However, if you speak out against Bush/Republican/Christianity then you are a HERO.

Who cares what Mel Gibson says?


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24 Mar 2007, 10:04 am

Austrailian? Understandable, deport all the nut cases, criminals, from the British Empire for a few hundred years, what do you expect? They murdered the owners, stripped the surface with cattle and sheep, stayed drunk for generations, caused a huge drought, silted up the rivers, polluted the water, cut down the trees, just like the Americans.

They are God's Chosen People, it is the only way they can explain their history.

If Mel wants to make pornographic films about deviant behavior with graphic content and an Amish theme, it is his right as an artist.

Theft, slavery, genocide, can all be explained if it can be shown that those people deserved what they got.
The Mayans do not have a history, all the books were burned, they were forbiden to speak their language, anyone who showed an interest in the history of their ancestors, for 8,000 years, in their land, was burned at the stake. It is the reason Jesus created the Universe in 4004BC. Anyone claiming there was a time before that should be burned at the stake, for love.

I look forward to that new German movie, where the Profit Hitler saves all those Jews for Jesus.

I am saved, and when I burn sinners at the stake, yes, we are orthodox, I use wet wood. It gives them time to apoligise to God for being born, before being sent to the flames of hell for all eturnity. It works, many cry out, Oh God! Oh God! for hours before reaching their damnation. I am glad that I can help by doing God's work. The worst are those who claim to be Christian, then shun stoning, burning at the stake, and claim to be Neo-Christians, for them I save my wetest wood.

Follow your leaders, repeat their words, it will give you something to think about as you burn in hell through all of eturnity.

Have a nice day! And may God bless you.



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24 Mar 2007, 1:05 pm

Oh, that's how so!

Well, I guess I believe it!


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24 Mar 2007, 9:50 pm

When you have an open forum to discuss your movie, you should expect people to be present to be critical about aspects of it. Mel Gibson brought this upon himself.



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24 Mar 2007, 10:18 pm

How does he know about forums so well?


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25 Mar 2007, 12:01 am

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Everyone knows the Mayans practised ritual human sacrifice (we did too)
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alright, I agree with you about the Mayans, but who is the WE you are refering to that did too?


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25 Mar 2007, 12:18 am

sinsboldly wrote:
agmoie wrote:
Everyone knows the Mayans practised ritual human sacrifice (we did too)
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alright, I agree with you about the Mayans, but who is the WE you are refering to that did too?


Merle

Aspies...? 8O


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25 Mar 2007, 12:26 am

headphase wrote:
When you have an open forum to discuss your movie, you should expect people to be present to be critical about aspects of it. Mel Gibson brought this upon himself.


Agreed. What was he, or his PR people, thinking, having him appear at Cal State Northridge??
That is southern California, where the ratio of Hispanics is pretty high. And at a University, where there are people there, including professors, who really do know about Mayan history and civilization.

He should have known there would be controversy over this issue, and know how to deal with that. WTF?



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25 Mar 2007, 1:47 am

sinsboldly wrote:
agmoie wrote:
Everyone knows the Mayans practised ritual human sacrifice (we did too)
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alright, I agree with you about the Mayans, but who is the WE you are refering to that did too?


Merle


There was a Discovery channel episode recently that claimed Scotsmen or maybe Irishmen in olden times (sorry guys I forget which ones) practiced sacrifices. But didn't they supposedly do that in England too? And of course there's always the Donner Party.



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25 Mar 2007, 1:50 am

Wow!


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25 Mar 2007, 2:02 am

Does anyone else question Mel's motivation with the movies aimed at villainizing an entire race of people. First there was Passion of Christ, then I heard he was working on a film about the Maccabees. I suppose he wanted to turn one of the Jews most beloved stories into something nasty and turn Christians against Jews again. But now he has decided to turn white folks against the Mayans. Perhaps this is geared to create anti-Mexican sentiments? The Mayans and Aztecs may have sacrificed people, but so did a number of other races and religions around the world throughout history. Even so that doesn't mean that all Native American tribes practiced sacrifice. Matter of fact its said the Mayan tribe was separated when some tribal elders refused to accept the sacrificing so they went into the US and formed new tribes.

Yes truth can be good. But depictions of history should be done in a way that does not place blame on current generations of people for what earlier generations did. Nor make blanket statements like all Jews are bad, all Christians are bad, all dark skin people are bad, all Aspies are bad, etc.

Just wait till Mel decides to do an Autism cure video. No doubt it will include the "hold the Autie down on the ground" technique popular with many curebies at the moment.



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25 Mar 2007, 2:08 am

Anyone ever made reservations at a posh restaurant under the name Donner? Then the matr'd would announce "table ready for Donner Party of five". :lol:

Sorry I just get weird when I'm sleep deprived and have migraines at same time.



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25 Mar 2007, 10:02 am

What makes you think he doesn't care about people?


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25 Mar 2007, 11:43 am

Well the Christian Knights of the Klu Klux Klan lynched someone for being black a few years ago, and many thousands before that. Christians have slaughtered and enslaved every people they came in contact with.

Five million were burnt at the stake in Europe, then a lot more died in the near endless religious wars starting with the Crusades. Then came centuries of Catholic-Protestant wars, and religious ethnic cleansings. Silcian Vespers, Albaginseians, the day when after being blessed by the priests the Catholics went forth and slaughtered every Protestant man, woman, and child in France. In the last, Hitler went after everyone who was not Catholic or mainstream Protestant, Jews, Gypsies, Seventh Day Adventists, Jehovas Witnesses, Christian Scientist, Communists.

The first to America were fleeing religious oppression. Quakers, Mennonites, Amish, Brethern, Shakers, and many more. It followed. The last witches burned at the stake were in the early eighteen hundreds, in England, maybe Scotland. In Salem they hung them. The Trail of Tears was a death march, Sand Creek, Wounded Knee, Chief Joseph's War. A bounty on the scalps of women and children?

It sounds like human sacrifice to me.

Aspurger culled the high functioning from the dammed, they might make WunderWaffen for the Herrenvolk.
The lower functioning vanished. Mengala saved some twins. The woman doing a study on Gypsie children who when she was done, had them marked for immediate termination, so they would not corrupt her new material from the camps. The Medical Profession working for the best interests of the State in the name of Science.

The Mayans did practice ritual blood letting on themselves, I know of no human sacrifice. The Aztec did. The Mayans fell apart 600 years before the Aztec rose. The Aztec sacraficed captives taken in war. Then the people ate them. Their diet was short on iron, and protien. The were inimic, and had cravings. Human flesh provides both. The Flower Wars were for the purpose of taking live captives, who's hearts were given to the sun and their body to the people. It was Communion, and a Feast Day. It was mutual, other tribes ate Aztec captives.

It was the only thing that met their nutritional needs. For those who could afford it, children were raised and fattened for market, they were roasted whole. The magic was in the blood. It worked, it cured them of a dietary deficency. Suddenly they felt strong and alive. They thought Christians strange for they did not eat the people they killed.

The problem was living on corn and beans, and way too many people. They did not have many domestic animals, the turkey. Incas ate Guinea Pigs, it worked. The Spanish cooked their food in iron pots. The iron allowed them to better process oxygen, they could move much faster and longer than the Native Americans. They had body armor, steel weapons, and were like they lived on speed and PCP.

Cure=Final Solution=Manifest Destiny, just words.



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25 Mar 2007, 12:26 pm

Wow!

What religion could he be?


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