Girl having grand mal seizure thrown out, tazed

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08 Aug 2015, 9:29 pm

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^^^ Can you believe this is at least the 3rd time you've broken your boycott in the past week?


Well, there wouldn't have been any need for a boycott on my part if you and your boyfriend were capable of civil discourse.
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08 Aug 2015, 10:19 pm

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The only concert I'd even consider attending would be either a concert by the Chicago Symphony Orchestra and Chorus (and yes, I still kicking myself for turning down the opportunity of singing with the Chicago Symphony Chorus when it still was under the direction of the late Margaret Hillis and the Orchestra under the direction of the late Sir Georg Solti) or the Lyric Opera of Chicago.

That's a totally different animal than what I think of when I think of concerts. There'd be a much more mature and civil audience with any kind of symphony orchestra/chorus.



All of them would be talking and texting on their cell phones during the performance.



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08 Aug 2015, 10:23 pm

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Kraichgauer wrote:
^^^
Can you believe we actually agree?



^^^ Can you believe this is at least the 3rd time you've broken your boycott in the past week?


Well, there wouldn't have been any need for a boycott on my part if you and your boyfriend were capable of civil discourse.
Boycott back on.

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08 Aug 2015, 10:37 pm

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If the girl knew that stress would trigger a grand mal seizure, then she should have never attended this event. Her mother should have kept her at home, by any means possible.


I knew someone would come along to blame it on the girl having the seizure.


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09 Aug 2015, 2:33 am

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The only concert I'd even consider attending would be either a concert by the Chicago Symphony Orchestra and Chorus (and yes, I still kicking myself for turning down the opportunity of singing with the Chicago Symphony Chorus when it still was under the direction of the late Margaret Hillis and the Orchestra under the direction of the late Sir Georg Solti) or the Lyric Opera of Chicago.

That's a totally different animal than what I think of when I think of concerts. There'd be a much more mature and civil audience with any kind of symphony orchestra/chorus.


Mature and civil? I don't think so! There have been quite a few world premieres in history that ended up in riots. The best known premiere was Stravinsky's The Rite of Spring. IIRC, Penderecki's Paradise Lost wasn't exactly well received at it's world premiere in Chicago back in 1977. Do I need to say anything about the music of Richard Wagner or Hector Berlioz? (Of course, Wagner was a blowhard and a megalomaniac, so his music causing trouble doesn't surprise me. Of course, putting a recording of the Berlioz Requiem on the stereo at 3:00 AM and cranking the volume up when said recording gets to the Tuba Miriam section (which is where all hell breaks loose, with 16 tympanies playing as loud as possible, 4 brass choirs playing as loud as possible, a choir of 300 people screaming at the top of their lungs, and an orchestra of 200 sawing away as loud as possible) is enough to start any police action. :twisted: ). The only other performance I know of and heard that nearly caused a riot was Sir David Zinman's "reinterpretation" of the Shostakovich 5th Symphony while he was still music director of the Baltimore Symphony.



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09 Aug 2015, 11:26 am

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The only concert I'd even consider attending would be either a concert by the Chicago Symphony Orchestra and Chorus (and yes, I still kicking myself for turning down the opportunity of singing with the Chicago Symphony Chorus when it still was under the direction of the late Margaret Hillis and the Orchestra under the direction of the late Sir Georg Solti) or the Lyric Opera of Chicago.

That's a totally different animal than what I think of when I think of concerts. There'd be a much more mature and civil audience with any kind of symphony orchestra/chorus.


Mature and civil? I don't think so! There have been quite a few world premieres in history that ended up in riots. The best known premiere was Stravinsky's The Rite of Spring. IIRC, Penderecki's Paradise Lost wasn't exactly well received at it's world premiere in Chicago back in 1977. Do I need to say anything about the music of Richard Wagner or Hector Berlioz? (Of course, Wagner was a blowhard and a megalomaniac, so his music causing trouble doesn't surprise me. Of course, putting a recording of the Berlioz Requiem on the stereo at 3:00 AM and cranking the volume up when said recording gets to the Tuba Miriam section (which is where all hell breaks loose, with 16 tympanies playing as loud as possible, 4 brass choirs playing as loud as possible, a choir of 300 people screaming at the top of their lungs, and an orchestra of 200 sawing away as loud as possible) is enough to start any police action. :twisted: ). The only other performance I know of and heard that nearly caused a riot was Sir David Zinman's "reinterpretation" of the Shostakovich 5th Symphony while he was still music director of the Baltimore Symphony.


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09 Aug 2015, 11:41 am

Music creates energy usage in crowds. Even the Nazis were aware. They used it as a tool of psychological manipulation. One fun place to hang out at a concert is by the sound board, if possible. It's pretty mellow there and you can watch the sound guy work the lights and everything.



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13 Aug 2015, 12:41 am

I read that when stravinski's "the rite of spring" debuted, it caused a riot. in any case, the last concert I attended, if it could be called a concert, was at some dive in seattle in 1983, blues harpist Charlie musselwhite and his blow-down-the-walls band [it was that loud, liquids vibrated in glasses and in my body] on the bass notes] - I was lucky I didn't get a seizure from all that violent sound pressure. it was so loud that a gunshot would barely have registered.



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13 Aug 2015, 1:04 am

I hope she wins. Medical bills caused by the incident, and coverage of psychotherapy to follow.

Because that's how you get PTSD just for living life. That's just not OK.

No amount of increased training is going to help with high school bullies who want to get paid for continuing to act like high school bullies. Based on the description there, that's not an inability to tell the difference between a seizure and typical rap concert fucked-uppery. That's an unwillingness to give a s**t.

Hope someone caught it with their smartphone video camera. They deserve to be charged with assault.


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13 Aug 2015, 9:42 am

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Hope someone caught it with their smartphone video camera. They deserve to be charged with assault.

Tell me about it.
You'd think with everyone and thier granddaddy carrying a hi-def video cam in their pockets the cops would be more mindful of thier own actions. Apparently it takes more than that, though. Maybe if there is a string of incidents where the crowd of onlookers dives in and pummels the cops damn near to death the message will be received clearly enough.


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