U.S. is officially putting boots on the ground in Syria!
Syria wants to be left alone. Someone is funding rebels to make up excuses for intervention. You'll see the same in Iran once Syria has gotten "democracy".
Russia is the bad guy now because he is helping Assad halt the destabilization of Syria. Certain interests in the U.S does not like that, which explains the increased Russophobe sentiment.
Here in Europe, certain interests have influence over the media, but not to such an extent as in the U.S, so we can put the pieces together. Those of us who dig a little deeper, that is.
I think it's time to stop f*****g around in the middle east and to expose the warmongerers and their lobbying in the U.S. I think Americans would very much start to clean up the mess in their own country and let the middle east sort their problems out themselves, plug the giant drain in the economy that comes from the incessant warmongering that is not in the interest of the American people.
Angry Syrians are pouring into Europe because of U.S warmongering. How many Syrians have U.S taken in? How many have Israel taken in? The gulf states?
But we have to deal with it, and these people think we all signed a door to door petition to bomb the living daylights out of them when the blame is on anti-democratic mafia like NATO, UN and EU who serve the interests of... let's just call them highest bidders.
None of us wanted it. Don't believe what the media is telling you about Assad, it's all bought and paid for.
Lol, the Arab states in the middle east don't want Syrians in their country even though they are mostly Muslims. Some of them can't handle the migration waves and the others just hate them more than they hate Israel and US. And I doubt they want to go there anyway, Europe is a sweeter candy.
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Syria wants to be left alone. Someone is funding rebels to make up excuses for intervention. You'll see the same in Iran once Syria has gotten "democracy".
Russia is the bad guy now because he is helping Assad halt the destabilization of Syria. Certain interests in the U.S does not like that, which explains the increased Russophobe sentiment.
Here in Europe, certain interests have influence over the media, but not to such an extent as in the U.S, so we can put the pieces together. Those of us who dig a little deeper, that is.
I think it's time to stop f*****g around in the middle east and to expose the warmongerers and their lobbying in the U.S. I think Americans would very much start to clean up the mess in their own country and let the middle east sort their problems out themselves, plug the giant drain in the economy that comes from the incessant warmongering that is not in the interest of the American people.
Angry Syrians are pouring into Europe because of U.S warmongering. How many Syrians have U.S taken in? How many have Israel taken in? The gulf states?
But we have to deal with it, and these people think we all signed a door to door petition to bomb the living daylights out of them when the blame is on anti-democratic mafia like NATO, UN and EU who serve the interests of... let's just call them highest bidders.
None of us wanted it. Don't believe what the media is telling you about Assad, it's all bought and paid for.
Lol, the Arab states in the middle east don't want Syrians in their country even though they are mostly Muslims. Some of them can't handle the migration waves and the others just hate them more than they hate Israel and US. And I doubt they want to go there anyway, Europe is a sweeter candy.
Not sure if you are referring to Gulf states only in particular, if not, then get your facts straight.
Gulf states do not recognize the UN treaty on refugees; and they are in fact, may be way culturally different than Syrians despite religion and language - ie. non-veiled Syrian women would feel way more alienated in Saudi Arabia than in Europe.
And btw, how many ISIS targets Israel has bombed, Chummy?
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How come ISIS never talks about Israel?
I find that to be strange.
Is the implication that they are actually following Israel's orders?
That may be a little doubtful, but how they deal with Palestine and that even the U.N recognized human rights violations(though they didn't do anything about it except investigate it seems)...makes it hard to trust that they had absolutely no part in current affairs. I mean mass destruction with no regard for civilian life or out right killing unarmed civilians because an age old belief that God gave them all of that land including the area inhabited by palestinians and so the arab Palestinians need to be gradually forced out or killed to make way for the Israelis, doesn't make it look like a trustworthy nation.
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None, Boo. Everyone has its own agenda, you know...
Israel hasn't bombed any targets, but why would it??
Since everything in the world is Israel's fault I doubt that country wants to give them more reasons to hate itself by helping Syrians.
Syrians won't come to Israel anyway, although you probably don't know that Israel has medically treated people from Syria before. And I am not using some chart, I was actually volunteering in a hospital in northern Israel and saw Syrians in being treated with my own set of eyes. It's easier to attack people than want peace...
Edit: just to clarify, I am speaking of the Syrian war caused injuries, not some car accident.
Israel is building fences to keep the Syrians away.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/09/i ... 47720.html
It's funny how people still see "others" as all the same. They are "all" bad. They are all "terrorists", etc. etc.
Just to clarify, I'm taking the radical side of not liking radicals, of any kind... it's immature to use such dichotomy.
When I was in Israel, I saw jews and arabs live in peace, with the only exception of some religious nationalists from either side that one day one of them decides to go bananas and take a ham on innocent people from the other side.
The thing is, that it's not interesting. The media has no interest to cover this because it does not provide good rating. People want to see blood and nationalism/patriotism in TV and media, not truths. Not gonna argue though, an opinion is an opinion and I don't hate no person based on his opinions (unless of course, their opinion is that they want do cause harm. But seriously - one man can't be friends with everyone can he?)
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Israel hasn't bombed any targets, but why would it??
Since everything in the world is Israel's fault I doubt that country wants to give them more reasons to hate itself by helping Syrians.
Syrians won't come to Israel anyway, although you probably don't know that Israel has medically treated people from Syria before. And I am not using some chart, I was actually volunteering in a hospital in northern Israel and saw Syrians in being treated with my own set of eyes. It's easier to attack people than want peace...
Edit: just to clarify, I am speaking of the Syrian war caused injuries, not some car accident.
Civilians or Qaeda fighters?
http://untribune.com/un-peacekeepers-ob ... sra-golan/
ISIS is the most extreme organization. The front of Nusra is the most extreme of the moderates, because they abuse less the local population. And why? because they are the local population (well, some of it). That's why you can't tell whether the guy was shot because he was a rebel or a civilian. Obviously they come to Israel without military clothes and weapons otherwise they'll be shot dead on site, those people are really smart.
The thing is I firmly believe Israel treated mostly civillians but obviously you can't know if that civilian picked up a gun or what two days before or even less. Besides, even terrorists get medical treatment in Israel (speaking of those within Israeli population). Since doctors are bound to hippocratic oath, they must treat everyone.
By the way, I wouldn't rely too much on UN and its security council. Those guys have proven to be biased many times before. You may agree or disagree with Israel's actions (which I do think they could have done a lot of things better), but spreading lies in the form of Bureaucracy (which the UN did example Goldstone report which was later admitted to be fabricated), delegitimizing and false news coverage is just downright dirty.
Those won't bring peace any sooner, with all the love that I have for my arab friends.
The thing is I firmly believe Israel treated mostly civillians but obviously you can't know if that civilian picked up a gun or what two days before or even less. Besides, even terrorists get medical treatment in Israel (speaking of those within Israeli population). Since doctors are bound to hippocratic oath, they must treat everyone.
By the way, I wouldn't rely too much on UN and its security council. Those guys have proven to be biased many times before. You may agree or disagree with Israel's actions (which I do think they could have done a lot of things better), but spreading lies in the form of Bureaucracy (which the UN did example Goldstone report which was later admitted to be fabricated), delegitimizing and false news coverage is just downright dirty.
Those won't bring peace any sooner, with all the love that I have for my arab friends.
According to the stereotype of the "jew hating radical muslim", one would think ISIS would be all over Israel and jews, but it's like ISIS doesn't even know of their existence. It's this weird one way relationship where Netanyahu goes on and on about big bad ISIS, while ISIS seems to exist in this parallel universe where Israel doesn't exist.
That's strange.