London Mayor- 'too many white men'

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Again, why does it matter about ethnicity and not who's best for the job? This identity politics is insane. Are you saying that the people from black and south Asian neighborhoods are that racist that they need to see someone of the same color to feel represented?

Again, if he was white and spoke of a different ethnic group having too much representation, would he get away with it? I can't even make examples without getting banned I'd imagine. That's how messed up this is. White people need to stick up for themselves.

I would love to see Mr. Mayor-Nothing tell that to Ms. Queen-Nothing. Does he not understand the origin of the word "Alba?" Guess not. So, now London has an abjectly racist mayor. Good. The United Kingdom has apparently tried everything else to destroy itself; now, it is reduced to using racism. Whatever.

I'm saying that there is literally no person representing people from those neighborhoods on the transit board. Everyone on that board is from white communities, and has those as their frame of reference.

As the board that regulates bus scheduling and similar, do you really think that makes no difference? London is almost half made up of non-white neighborhoods. Lack of literally anyone on the board who has firsthand knowledge of and an emotional tie to these communities seems like an extremely easy way to foster inefficient service provision for them, and this is what Mayor Khan was saying.

A diversity of perspectives in government makes for more effective democratic decision-making, because it brings in knowledge from a wider variety of backgrounds and represents the interests of more of the country's people.


This is not the situation. You have non-white neighborhoods having not a single representative, on a board regulating the provision of an essential public service. The thing that gets them to work on time.


Muh poor oppresseded white pplz. We only have every single seat on the transit board. Non-whites want representation, I demand they stop oppressing us.

And, what would resolve the situation to provide representation on the board? Simply recruiting an individual of the perceived race and/or ethnicity isn't only offensively discriminatory (tokenism), but, it won't help the community unless that individual has specific, valid knowledge about the public service. Are there such individuals asking for appointment?

I'd agree that picking a token minority from an affluent white neighborhood would solve very little. It's a useful social symbol for equality, I suppose, but as far as the actual issue of transit provision goes wouldn't really do anything.

What you'd want is someone actually from an unrepresented neighborhood, with experience in public transit regulation. As I'm not that familiar with internal London politics, I don't know if there's anyone like that in the running.

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Are there such individuals from those neighborhoods asking for appointment?

I just edited my post as you replied. The answer is: I'm not a Londoner, I'm on the other side of the Atlantic and so far across the American landmass that I can see the Pacific (well, the San Francisco Bay) from my apartment window. So, I don't really keep track of that.

If so and if they had demonstrated competence in the field in some other capacity, I'd support their appointment. If not, Mayor Khan's comment highlighting the problem is a great way to stir someone into going for the job.

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Again, so they are that racist that they need someone of the same color as them? Just want that confirmed. Is it time we start calling for more white people at the MOBO awards? Because white audience members might feel not feel any emotional ties to the nominees otherwise.

So we need more tokenism and the continuation of people always being accused of getting a job based on race, gender or sexuality rather than on merit? It's like how pretty much every black actor or actress complained about the Oscars. Did it ever dawn on them that they may have not been in a good film or didn't put on a good performance? Even black actors or actresses that were in terrible films or performed terribly could just claim it was racism.

Wow, that's pretty sadistic. I see this a lot from 'anti-racists'. To the point where they denied that an attack on a white girl while the attackers screamed "die white slag" was a racist attack.

It's those corrupted people in positions of power that do these things, and some think they do it with good intentions haha. The people from these neighborhoods will just be like 'OK thanks for the job'.

You know full well the point I'm making. This is disingenuous.

They want someone who represents their community on the board that regulates the public service they use to get to work. Without having a voice from their community, do you believe it's going to run at optimum efficiency for them?


The snub of Straight Outta Compton was a legitimate issue. From what I can see it had as much to do with the film being produced outside of established Hollywood and with no big-name actors as with the race issue, but cowardly fear of "politicizing" the Oscars by nominating that with the race-related police brutality controversy going on also played a role. It more than deserved a Best Picture nomination per both popular and critical reception, and instead was only nominated for the consolation prize of Best Original Screenplay.

Between that and Michael B. Jordan not even being nominated for Best Actor for Creed, in what was widely hailed as an amazing performance, I have no issue with Black Americans being pissed about the overwhelmingly out-of-touch nature of the Academy. Which, make no mistake, is an insulated community of Hollywood bigshots who are mostly white guys in their 60s-70s.


You're tilting at windmills. If you think wanting an unrepresented community to have a representative in public transit provision is sadistic, I don't really know what to say.

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So if a white person from 'their' community got the job, that wouldn't be good enough for them? I mean surely this white person can become part of their community over time?

So because you liked the film, it should have won oscars? None of the Oscar stuff was a legitimate issue. There are people who are getting blown to bits every day and people who can't get clean water and these spoiled, privileged cry babies are having a tantrum about Oscars.

No I meant the way you mocked racism towards whites.

Why not make it a non-white person, adding a groundbreaking social symbol to the practical concern of inefficient provision to unrepresented communities? Why are you so set on keeping the transit board all-white?


Because the film was critically acclaimed and beloved of audiences, it should have been at least nominated for more than a consolation prize. Likewise Jordan's outright snub.


This is a fallacious argument. There being bigger issues in existence does not then mean the Academy's insulation is not also a problem.


You claimed white people need to "stick up for themselves" when non-white communities are calling for having even a single representative. I don't see how finding that ridiculous is "sadistic."

The New Observer is a right wing publication that trolls the news media picking up "poor wh***y" stories...

These communities have a right to question public service representation in areas where the community is predominantly 'ethnic"

When many of these immigrant families moved into these areas of London the locals thumbed their noses at them and took off to "whiter pastures" where their kids don't have to mix with "darkies". Everyone knows about "white flight" we get it here in Melbourne as well. It's the worst kept secret.

Some the immigrant communities remaining elect a person who represents their views that they would like more representation from their community. They are not asking for much really. It's the same with their elected officials. I doubt they would want a middle class toff from Oxford/Eton who lives in a leafy all white area to represent their interests. Most poms need a few generation to accept that being British doesn't mean white.

Because it's outrageous that 'anti-racists' think that groups need someone of the same color to make them feel more at ease. Why not the best person from that community? Regardless of color.

Of course it's a point, we have these rich and spoiled cry babies spitting their dummies out when there are real issues in the world. As well as the media putting so much focus on a non issues which distracts people from real ones.

I meant they need to stick up for themselves when they are the victims. Like how that BBC radio presenter was fired for being white.

Did they? Any evidence for that? Strange thing is, it wasn't all down to white people fleeing because they were sick of what London had become. They were cleansed from the area because they could not afford to live there anymore!

Well that's a different issue we're not allowed to talk about.

But I'm wondering why you're so against racism here but you support a state which has racial colonies in illegally occupied territories?