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Some saying change was needed but Trump?! ! !, and that Sanders wouldn't have lost the blue States.
Who do the Democrats choose for 2020?
the democrats are FINISHED as a party, in the historical dustbin along with the whigs.
I'd advise the Democratic party to stick it out, because I have to think Trump won't stand a snowball's chance in hell four years from now, after he drives the country into the ground.
the Bernie supporters will bolt straightaway to form/join another party and the colored folk will not be sufficient to maintain it, so it will splinter and dissolve.
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It just needs new life injected into it. Perhaps Hillary was just too old and part of the establishment - although a woman, not "exciting" or "new" enough to inspire more people into voting for her outside of the traditional base.
It might have been so different had Elizabeth Warren chose to run.
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Oh, you mean we're going to have to make do without Hillary starting World War III?
Well, that is a bit of a blow, but I guess we'll just have to endure.
I mean, now at least we have a chance to do so.
It's funny to me how Trump and Clinton have both been equally and consistently accused of someone who will start WWIII. Personally I don't think Trump, Clinton, Putin or any nation leader sees any advantage in the entire planet being annihilated in a nuclear war.
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Some saying change was needed but Trump?! ! !, and that Sanders wouldn't have lost the blue States.
Who do the Democrats choose for 2020?
the democrats are FINISHED as a party, in the historical dustbin along with the whigs.
I'd advise the Democratic party to stick it out, because I have to think Trump won't stand a snowball's chance in hell four years from now, after he drives the country into the ground.
If he does totally f**k up impeachment is an option.
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Oh, you mean we're going to have to make do without Hillary starting World War III?
Well, that is a bit of a blow, but I guess we'll just have to endure.
I mean, now at least we have a chance to do so.
It's funny to me how Trump and Clinton have both been equally and consistently accused of someone who will start WWIII. Personally I don't think Trump, Clinton, Putin or any nation leader sees any advantage in the entire planet being annihilated in a nuclear war.
I don't see how any national leader could see any advantage in blowing up Iraq, Libya, and Syria, but one of the two parties you mention has supported or actively worked to bring about all three of those.
Sometimes, you have to look at the track record and acknowledge that there are all sorts of things that don't make any sense to you, but which other people are quite willing to do.
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Some saying change was needed but Trump?! ! !, and that Sanders wouldn't have lost the blue States.
Who do the Democrats choose for 2020?
the democrats are FINISHED as a party, in the historical dustbin along with the whigs.
I'd advise the Democratic party to stick it out, because I have to think Trump won't stand a snowball's chance in hell four years from now, after he drives the country into the ground.
If he does totally f**k up impeachment is an option.
and a possibility.
Oh, you mean we're going to have to make do without Hillary starting World War III?
Well, that is a bit of a blow, but I guess we'll just have to endure.
I mean, now at least we have a chance to do so.
It's funny to me how Trump and Clinton have both been equally and consistently accused of someone who will start WWIII. Personally I don't think Trump, Clinton, Putin or any nation leader sees any advantage in the entire planet being annihilated in a nuclear war.
I don't see how any national leader could see any advantage in blowing up Iraq, Libya, and Syria, but one of the two parties you mention has supported or actively worked to bring about all three of those.
Sometimes, you have to look at the track record and acknowledge that there are all sorts of things that don't make any sense to you, but which other people are quite willing to do.
What I mean is I don't see any leader starting a war that would insure the destruction of their own country which would include their own personal destruction along with their children and family. It's possible of course, but seems highly unlikely. I don't think WWIII will ever happen. And if it does, it will be over with in a matter of minutes and most of the planet will be obliterated.
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Some saying change was needed but Trump?! ! !, and that Sanders wouldn't have lost the blue States.
Who do the Democrats choose for 2020?
the democrats are FINISHED as a party, in the historical dustbin along with the whigs.
I'd advise the Democratic party to stick it out, because I have to think Trump won't stand a snowball's chance in hell four years from now, after he drives the country into the ground.
If he does totally f**k up impeachment is an option.
and a possibility.
With an all Republican Congress, I doubt it. All of the concientous objector never Trump Republicans are planning thier groveling strategy as we speak. Those that survived that is. A few of them are thinking about polishing there resumes as they lost. All that do not follow Trump know that a well financed Trumpist primary opponent awaits them.
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Oh, you mean we're going to have to make do without Hillary starting World War III?
Well, that is a bit of a blow, but I guess we'll just have to endure.
I mean, now at least we have a chance to do so.
It's funny to me how Trump and Clinton have both been equally and consistently accused of someone who will start WWIII. Personally I don't think Trump, Clinton, Putin or any nation leader sees any advantage in the entire planet being annihilated in a nuclear war.
I don't see how any national leader could see any advantage in blowing up Iraq, Libya, and Syria, but one of the two parties you mention has supported or actively worked to bring about all three of those.
Sometimes, you have to look at the track record and acknowledge that there are all sorts of things that don't make any sense to you, but which other people are quite willing to do.
What I mean is I don't see any leader starting a war that would insure the destruction of their own country which would include their own personal destruction along with their children and family. It's possible of course, but seems highly unlikely. I don't think WWIII will ever happen. And if it does, it will be over with in a matter of minutes and most of the planet will be obliterated.
The highly unlikely is becoming reality on a regular basis lately.
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I think people have this all wrong.
I hate Trump, I think he is despicable. I thought his speech tonight was phony as hell and makes me really hate him. I doubt he will even prosecute anyone in the White House (drain the swamp). It's all just a game to him.
But I really think he won because Clinton seems to be a criminal herself. They are both criminals and that's why Trump won today. A combination of Republican loyalty to the party and disgust with Clinton. This may not be a popular opinion but I really think that nobody trusts Clinton (including myself and so losing this election is on her not the voters).
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"The election of Donald Trump to the Presidency is nothing less than a tragedy for the American republic, a tragedy for the Constitution, and a triumph for the forces, at home and abroad, of nativism, authoritarianism, misogyny, and racism. Trump’s shocking victory, his ascension to the Presidency, is a sickening event in the history of the United States and liberal democracy. On January 20, 2017, we will bid farewell to the first African-American President—a man of integrity, dignity, and generous spirit—and witness the inauguration of a con who did little to spurn endorsement by forces of xenophobia and white supremacy. It is impossible to react to this moment with anything less than revulsion and profound anxiety.
There are, inevitably, miseries to come: an increasingly reactionary Supreme Court; an emboldened right-wing Congress; a President whose disdain for women and minorities, civil liberties and scientific fact, to say nothing of simple decency, has been repeatedly demonstrated. Trump is vulgarity unbounded, a knowledge-free national leader who will not only set markets tumbling but will strike fear into the hearts of the vulnerable, the weak, and, above all, the many varieties of Other whom he has so deeply insulted. The African-American Other. The Hispanic Other. The female Other. The Jewish and Muslim Other. The most hopeful way to look at this grievous event—and it’s a stretch—is that this election and the years to follow will be a test of the strength, or the fragility, of American institutions. It will be a test of our seriousness and resolve."
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Some saying change was needed but Trump?! ! !, and that Sanders wouldn't have lost the blue States.
Who do the Democrats choose for 2020?
the democrats are FINISHED as a party, in the historical dustbin along with the whigs.
I'd advise the Democratic party to stick it out, because I have to think Trump won't stand a snowball's chance in hell four years from now, after he drives the country into the ground.
If he does totally f**k up impeachment is an option.
and a possibility.
Impeachment wouldn't be a good idea; if Trump is impeached then Mike Pence become president, which is not better, and Trump voters will blame the failure of the next years policies on the impeachment thus opening the rise of another intolerant populist. Better to let Trump fail, thus his supporters won't be able to make excuses.
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