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15 May 2007, 5:32 pm

Should I have jumped up and down in happiness and joy when Bush-critic Molly Ivans died after bravely battling cancer? How about when David Halberstam
was killed in a car crash? I really don't understand this feeling of joy at the deaths of those with whom you disagree.

You know Jerry Fallwell did good things too. He wasn't perfect, but he wasn't an evil man, he wasn't as another poster commented an "(American) Taliban." I mean, my god, do you have any understanding of what the Taliban were?

This is all very frustrating.

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15 May 2007, 5:37 pm

jimservo wrote:

We should be happy because there's one less idiot in the world.

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15 May 2007, 5:46 pm

Sopho wrote:

jimservo wrote:

We should be happy because there's one less idiot in the world.

Yeah, that kinda guy should be remembered for his bad deeds

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15 May 2007, 7:26 pm

What was, by comparison, an appropriate reaction to the death of Saddam Hussein?

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15 May 2007, 8:01 pm

Fred Phelps and his lunatic church for fools and idiots have decided to jump into it:

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. Falwell was a true Calvinistic Baptist when he was a young preacher in Springfield, Missouri, and sold his soul to Free-Willism (Arminianism) for lucre.

2. Falwell bitterly and viciously attacked WBC because of WBC's faithful Bible preaching -- thereby committing the unpardonable sin -- otherwise known as the sin against the Holy Ghost.

3. Falwell warmly praised Christ-rejecting Jews, pedophile-condoning Catholics, money-grubbing compromisers, practicing f*gs like Mel White, and backsliders like Billy Graham and Robert Schuler, etc. All for lucre -- making him guilty of their sins.

Falwell is in Hell, Praise God!! [censored by me]

In this rare case I decline to include a source link unless it is specifically requested. Obviously, I do not claim that each person who is happy that Falwell died shares the same identical feelings.

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15 May 2007, 9:52 pm

Sopho wrote:

He was an evil f**k. Thank god the bastard is dead.

Edit: HAHAHA. It is morally wrong to celebrate anyone's death, except maybe hitler or hussein.

He had beliefs different than yours, but who did he ever murder, or rape, of hurt, or steal from?

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15 May 2007, 9:56 pm

He preached intolerant hatred. He can't do that anymore. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

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15 May 2007, 10:01 pm

ericmc783 wrote:

Sopho wrote:

He was an evil f**k. Thank god the bastard is dead.

praying for your death soon. It is morally wrong to celebrate anyone's death, except maybe hitler or hussein.

He had beliefs different than yours, but who did he ever murder, or rape, of hurt, or steal from?

Murder: His followers did it to abortion doctors
Rape: American dignity
Hurt: America
Steal From: Suckers who followed him

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15 May 2007, 10:06 pm

ericmc783 wrote:

He had beliefs different than yours, but who did he ever murder, or rape, of hurt, or steal from?

TruenoBlues wrote:

Murder: His followers did it to abortion doctors

TruenoBlues:

In the words of Bill O'Reilly, "enjoy the kool-aid, sir".

Like Falwell has or had any control over what the TRULY fanatical people did. If Falwell himself would have ever condoned such radicalism, he would have been locked-up long ago.

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15 May 2007, 10:14 pm

ericmc783 wrote:

He had beliefs different than yours, but who did he ever murder, or rape, of hurt, or steal from?

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Murder: His followers did it to abortion doctors

First of all, don't quote that pathological, lying, slime-ball O'Reilly at me. And he DID condone that radicalism. It's illegal to TELL someone to commit murder, but it isn't to praise the act after the fact.

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15 May 2007, 10:25 pm

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Murder: His followers did it to abortion doctors

Do you have any actual evidence of this? I am not sure of the number of murders of abortion doctors since Roe, I think it might be between 10-20. I know it's lower then 20, but I can't recall the exact number. The number of attempted numbers I would presume is higher, and the number of arsons I ran into a number around 60.

Still, let's assume that the person watched the show every day. This isn't the same as saying he endorsed it since I know he never did so since that was never reported (if it had been they would reported). Fringe figures commit crimes, even murder, and are inspired by mainstream/semi-mainstream people that do would never endorse their action directly. Animal rights people have committed bombings. The Unabomber was a an anti-technology belief and apparently was familiar with Al Gore Earth in the Balance. But that doesn't mean The Unabomber=Al Gore.

Of course part of this is that I don't "get it." I don't dislike Christians so there isn't that. While I never had much use for Falwell I didn't hate him or see any reason to (although I don't hate people who I disagree with anyway). I am pro-life and politically conservative so there isn't that.

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15 May 2007, 10:30 pm

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It is morally wrong to celebrate anyone's death, except maybe hitler or hussein.

were they not human as well?

I feel I am more obligated to celerate Falwell's death since he had more of an influence than either of the two you mentioned.

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15 May 2007, 10:33 pm

headphase wrote:

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It is morally wrong to celebrate anyone's death, except maybe hitler or hussein.

were they not human as well?

No.

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15 May 2007, 10:35 pm

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The overwhelming majority of anti-abortion activists nationwide, however, have come out strongly and clearly against the clinic bombings. When Washington Mayor Marion Barry said that "the Jerry Falwells of the world ( ought to condemn this type of terrorist activity," Falwell heatedly noted that he had. Said the Moral Majority leader: "The bombings are criminal and terroristic and very damaging to the cause of the unborn." Joseph Scheidler, executive director of the Chicago-based Pro-Life Action League, has been arrested six times for illegal picketing of abortion facilities and has written a book called Closed: Ninety-Nine Ways to Shut Down the Abortion Industry. Yet last week he said of the violence, "We understand why it occurs. Still, I reject it. I don't think it is helpful, or that it will work to change anything. We prefer persuasion." [emphasis noted]

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Maybe someone has something else in this regards that conflicts?

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15 May 2007, 10:35 pm

TruenoBlues wrote:

headphase wrote:

Quote:

It is morally wrong to celebrate anyone's death, except maybe hitler or hussein.

were they not human as well?

No.

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15 May 2007, 10:38 pm

I feel a song coming on:

"Another one bites the dust!"

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