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22 Dec 2017, 10:14 am

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...Everybody says they want moderation and compromise but our actions say the opposite.

In 2016, my action was to skip voting in all federal elections for the first time in my life. "Don't feed the trolls" and all that.


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22 Dec 2017, 10:46 am

America is gonna be in the wilderness for quite a while, it will take something major for us to snap out of it, or the present generations will just have to die out eventually, "the sins of the father" and all that.



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22 Dec 2017, 12:00 pm

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The United States (and other nations) needs to get back to moderate governing.


When was that then?


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22 Dec 2017, 12:20 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
AspieUtah wrote:
The United States (and other nations) needs to get back to moderate governing.

When was that then?

Nixon (despite Watergate), Kennedy, Eisenhower, Coolidge, Wilson, Theodore Roosevelt, Lincoln, Monroe, Madison and Washington among others.


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23 Dec 2017, 3:13 am

Still less than one year in office and the resultant global butthurt is of biblical proportions.
What will it be like four years from now?
Eight years?
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23 Dec 2017, 3:26 am

implying trump's heart won't give out within 8 years


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23 Dec 2017, 3:44 am

Then it'll be Pence....


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23 Dec 2017, 11:26 am

AspieUtah wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
AspieUtah wrote:
The United States (and other nations) needs to get back to moderate governing.

When was that then?

Nixon (despite Watergate), Kennedy, Eisenhower, Coolidge, Wilson, Theodore Roosevelt, Lincoln, Monroe, Madison and Washington among others.


Fair enough. I wouldn't really call them moderate though when it came to war.


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23 Dec 2017, 11:27 am

Raptor wrote:
Then it'll be Pence....


:lol:


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23 Dec 2017, 12:31 pm

god help us, we're in for some tough times.



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23 Dec 2017, 5:34 pm

Editorial: this is what New Zealand's most conservative, right wing newspaper's editorial board thinks of the "taking names" Trump disgrace:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/ar ... d=11964814



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23 Dec 2017, 9:02 pm

no two ways about it, NZ is definitely more civilized than we are. I am so ashamed of being an American citizen right now. :oops: and for those jingoist amuuuurican blowhards now wrecking our nation, who would say "love it or leave it!" I have nothing but contempt.



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23 Dec 2017, 9:05 pm

He is an embarrassment to the human species.



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23 Dec 2017, 9:49 pm

B19 wrote:
Editorial: this is what New Zealand's most conservative, right wing newspaper's editorial board thinks of the "taking names" Trump disgrace:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/ar ... d=11964814

May be a right wing "rag" but they make sense...

The threat to "take names" of aid recipients who supported a resolution in the General Assembly against his decision to recognise Jerusalem as Israel's capital was as foolish as it was disreputable. He obviously did not stop to think what would happen if his threat had succeeded. If all US foreign aid recipients had fallen into line and the resolution had failed, what good would that have done the US or Israel for that matter? The result would not have been seen as any sort of endorsement of Israel's claim to Jerusalem by the General Assembly. It would have been written off, quite rightly, as a vote cast under gross and disgraceful duress.

Fortunately his standover tactic failed. The resolution was passed by a resounding 128 votes to 9. It should not be thought it was easy for some of those 128 countries to risk the wrath of Trump. US aid provides a significant slice of their national budgets. It has probably often been provided with political strings attached but those have been largely hidden and deniable until now.



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24 Dec 2017, 12:32 am

As an American, my message to the rest of the world is: don't let that orange buffoon bully you around.


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24 Dec 2017, 12:41 am

my message to the rest of the world, is insulate yourself from us as best you can, and plan around us. we are gonna be insane and babbling to ourselves in the wilderness for a good while. another civil war is a real possibility. warmaking mischief is another. I don't know when we'll snap out of it and return to the world of the civilized, but I fear it will be years at least.