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So this is all only about trump saying one thing. Basically he doesn't think Russia interfered? Hasn't he been saying that all along? The last time he and putin met trump said something like "putin says he didn't do it and I believe him".

What makes this so much different?

Was always a treasonous act, he just publicly sided with an adversary over recent intelligence on a world stage this time

Same as before, lack of spine and complicit nature just more pronounced in the light

When Putin met with Trump in private, I'm pretty certain the Russian President brought up that pee tape.

Context, and repetition. The context has been escalating - and expanding.

Initially, it was just Trump making what he thought would pass as a clever aside to Russian agents *during a presidential debate* which, per Mueller's indictment of 12 GRU officers, wasn't merely an aside, but was acted upon immediately as if it were an order.

Now we have a small pod of Republican Congresscreatures making a pilgrimage to Moscow. No Dems allowed.

While continuing to affirm and admire, openly, various despots, and defend their despotism (we kill people too, the man said), he also began to attack and undermine the North Atlantic Treaty Organization and the Group of Seven - literally throwing pieces of candy on the table at the German Chancellor? Pouting because Putin/Russia aren't in the G7 anymore (which would make it the G8) because they invaded and annexed territory of more than one sovereign nation?

Then he meets privately with Putin, after which he literally stands shoulder to shoulder with the man at side by side podia, yeah that is the plural form, and on globally broadcast TV proceeds to insult and humiliate the entire US intelligence operation by basically telling them he doesn't care what they discover, Pootie is his bestie and what *he* says goes.

Trying to walk that back - only following a Twitterstorm - by saying he meant to say that he does care what they discover? Beyond any credulity.

And all of this against a background of consistent namecalling and undermining of the highest levels of law enforcement, indeed of the laws themselves, which would constrain him. While holding campaign rallies? Two years into his term? Filled with distortions, inflammatory rhetoric and hatemongering.

It's the pattern of behavior, and what the pattern points to, rather than a single isolated incident. Which is true of all abusers, and is the way in which abuse is generally proven to exist - find the pattern, and illuminate it. In this case, the man all but grovels in the presence of abusive despots, and flings not only insults, but candy (presumably because faeces were not available in the moment) at a female head of state from one of the more enlightened Western countries (as long as you're not Greek, lately; but that is for another thread). While heaping scorn on those who would constrain his behavior, or expose it.

If you haven't read "Why Does He Do That?", by Lundy Bancroft, I can recommend it. Bancroft is male, worked in the family court system, and saw many domestic abusers in action. The thing is, the same tactics are used by *all* abusers, so the information can be generalized. I do recommend reading it. I also note that people are beginning, finally, to use abuse-related terminology to describe Trump's behavior - terms like "gaslighting" are finally being used. They are the correct terms to use...

I seriously doubt there's a pee tape. It's most likely on a thumbdrive.

I love you Ezra. Love you to pieces. Thank you for being someone I can speak to candidly without fear. I wish you all the good in the world.

I am deeply honored, fair lady. And thank you so much for taking the time to give me such an extensive rundown of the situation.

Very interesting turnaround from the editor-in-chief of Politico, who explains why he is no longer a Russiagate sceptic:
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story ... tic-219022

no matter the towering evidence of criminality, only those motivated by the golden rule seem to be offended.

Nearly 70% of Republicans approve of Trump's handling of Helsinki summit, CBS poll finds

Poll: Huge GOP majority backs Trump's Putin performance

The chart in the article shows 79 percent Republican approval

sheer GOP bloody-mindedness.

That orange s**tbag tweet machine you love so much spoke treasonous words on live tv for all to see and hear. He’s in this presidency to profit for himself and his Russian mafia friends, that’s it. And the American taxpayer is going to get f****d hard for a long time to pay for this mess.

and without any lube. the payback will be severe and ultimately fail. America's running on fumes now. we'll end not with a bang but with a whimper.

Guess u missed where I wrote, 'orange cheeto bloated narcissist putin puppet candy throwing traitor' awhile back. In your own thread no less.

I didn’t miss it. But I did notice that you were putting on an act to appease someone’s assumption that you were on their team.

There are too many headlines to choose from in the last handful of days even, but I am curious if you’re still defending that waste of air you call President.