Hillary will likely run in 2020 according to her advisor

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13 Nov 2018, 5:37 pm

I don't think it's such an outrageous thought. She won the popular vote last time. Whose to say she couldn't win in 2020? She has the most national political recognition of any other democrat, even more so than Bernie. Certainly more so than Warren, Booker, Ocasio-Cortez or Kamala Harris.



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13 Nov 2018, 6:12 pm

Magna wrote:
I don't think it's such an outrageous thought. She won the popular vote last time. Whose to say she couldn't win in 2020? She has the most national political recognition of any other democrat, even more so than Bernie. Certainly more so than Warren, Booker, Ocasio-Cortez or Kamala Harris.


Ocasio-Cortez will turn 31 just before the 2020 election. She would make an outstanding candidate, but she's constitutionally ineligible (you have to be 35 or older to be elected president). She could run in 2024, though.

I'd rather see someone other than Hillary run, and there's likely to be a wide field of candidates, but I support anybody but Trump. And if Oprah runs, Trump is toast.



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13 Nov 2018, 6:12 pm

Magna wrote:
I don't think it's such an outrageous thought. She won the popular vote last time. Whose to say she couldn't win in 2020? She has the most national political recognition of any other democrat, even more so than Bernie. Certainly more so than Warren, Booker, Ocasio-Cortez or Kamala Harris.



The fact that she could win is what scares me the most. If the only important thing is getting Trump out of office, then I think we are truly f****d as a nation. Yes, let's elect one of the most corrupt, arrogant, self-entitled, elitist politicians in U.S history to the highest office. Hey, at least she isn't Trump! When does this madness end?


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13 Nov 2018, 6:14 pm

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Magna wrote:
I don't think it's such an outrageous thought. She won the popular vote last time. Whose to say she couldn't win in 2020? She has the most national political recognition of any other democrat, even more so than Bernie. Certainly more so than Warren, Booker, Ocasio-Cortez or Kamala Harris.



The fact that she could win is what scares me the most. If the only important thing is getting Trump out of office, then I think we are truly f****d as a nation. Yes, let's elect one of the most corrupt, arrogant, self-entitled, elitist politicians in U.S history to the highest office. Hey, at least she isn't Trump! When does this madness end?


With the eviction of Trump from the White House he's trespassing.



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13 Nov 2018, 6:15 pm

Yeah. She only kicked Trump's ass in the last election by three million votes and two percentage points beating Trump more decisively than W.Bush beat Gore, Nixon beat Humphrey, and Kennedy beat Nixon.



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13 Nov 2018, 6:23 pm

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VegetableMan wrote:
Magna wrote:
I don't think it's such an outrageous thought. She won the popular vote last time. Whose to say she couldn't win in 2020? She has the most national political recognition of any other democrat, even more so than Bernie. Certainly more so than Warren, Booker, Ocasio-Cortez or Kamala Harris.



The fact that she could win is what scares me the most. If the only important thing is getting Trump out of office, then I think we are truly f****d as a nation. Yes, let's elect one of the most corrupt, arrogant, self-entitled, elitist politicians in U.S history to the highest office. Hey, at least she isn't Trump! When does this madness end?


With the eviction of Trump from the White House he's trespassing.



And where will that lead us? We'll just keep kicking the can down the road and swinging the pendulum back and forth between the two criminal gangs that continue to f**k us over time and time again. I wouldn't vote for Hillary if her opponent was Satan himself.


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13 Nov 2018, 6:27 pm

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Yeah. She only kicked Trump's ass in the last election by three million votes and two percentage points beating Trump more decisively than W.Bush beat Gore, Nixon beat Humphrey, and Kennedy beat Nixon.


Yeah, probably helped by all those illegal ballots. She f**king lost, get over it. No one likes her. She lost to a complete thug and a host of a game show. The more she campaigns the more her numbers go down. She had pretty much the entire media on her side and every politician across the world and the intelligence agencies and she still lost to Donald f**king Trump. She's one of the most evil people in history. A fraud, a crook and a pathologically lying psychopath that laughs about getting child rapist's sentence reduced. She will literally support any policy that she thinks will get her elected, but she will also support every war. She supported the sanctions on Iraq that killed 500,000 children. That's why Trump won. Anyone who wants this parasitic freak just to get Trump out here a reality check.


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13 Nov 2018, 6:50 pm

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Yeah. She only kicked Trump's ass in the last election by three million votes and two percentage points beating Trump more decisively than W.Bush beat Gore, Nixon beat Humphrey, and Kennedy beat Nixon.


Yeah, probably helped by all those illegal ballots. She f**king lost, get over it. No one likes her.


Ah, you must mean all those illegal ballots that Trump had KKK (Kris Kobach of Kansas) and his Presidential Commission on Voting Integrity investigate - and didn't find.

As for "No one likes her", that's in your imagination:

Trump trails all potential women Democratic challengers in 2020 poll - That includes Oprah Winfrey, Hillary Clinton, and Elizabeth Warren.



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13 Nov 2018, 6:51 pm

VegetableMan wrote:
thoughtbeast wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
Magna wrote:
I don't think it's such an outrageous thought. She won the popular vote last time. Whose to say she couldn't win in 2020? She has the most national political recognition of any other democrat, even more so than Bernie. Certainly more so than Warren, Booker, Ocasio-Cortez or Kamala Harris.



The fact that she could win is what scares me the most. If the only important thing is getting Trump out of office, then I think we are truly f****d as a nation. Yes, let's elect one of the most corrupt, arrogant, self-entitled, elitist politicians in U.S history to the highest office. Hey, at least she isn't Trump! When does this madness end?


With the eviction of Trump from the White House he's trespassing.



And where will that lead us? We'll just keep kicking the can down the road and swinging the pendulum back and forth between the two criminal gangs that continue to f**k us over time and time again. I wouldn't vote for Hillary if her opponent was Satan himself.


He is.

Be careful of what you wish for.



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13 Nov 2018, 6:57 pm

thoughtbeast wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
thoughtbeast wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
Magna wrote:
I don't think it's such an outrageous thought. She won the popular vote last time. Whose to say she couldn't win in 2020? She has the most national political recognition of any other democrat, even more so than Bernie. Certainly more so than Warren, Booker, Ocasio-Cortez or Kamala Harris.



The fact that she could win is what scares me the most. If the only important thing is getting Trump out of office, then I think we are truly f****d as a nation. Yes, let's elect one of the most corrupt, arrogant, self-entitled, elitist politicians in U.S history to the highest office. Hey, at least she isn't Trump! When does this madness end?


With the eviction of Trump from the White House he's trespassing.



And where will that lead us? We'll just keep kicking the can down the road and swinging the pendulum back and forth between the two criminal gangs that continue to f**k us over time and time again. I wouldn't vote for Hillary if her opponent was Satan himself.


He is.

Be careful of what you wish for.



Well, then I'll just go ahead and vote for Satan. We're circling the drain, anyway, right? Might as well get it over as quickly as possible. Why drag it out?


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13 Nov 2018, 7:17 pm

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Parties seldom nominate a candidate these days who previously lost. There have been several who lost twice, and the unfortunate William Jennings Bryan who lost three presidential elections, but today that would be unlikely.

She has too much baggage!

Her supporters point out that she WON the popular vote.

They say she was "cheated" by Russian tampering.

So, it's only fair to give her another chance.



No, if she was cheated, it was by the skewed electoral college system. Most countries elect their president directly by highest popular vote rather than by how the vote went in states or provinces.


That’d cause a civil war, we fought a revolution for similar reasons. The coasts of the USA are not the whole country, this is precisely why we have the electoral college.



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13 Nov 2018, 7:24 pm

VegetableMan wrote:
thoughtbeast wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
thoughtbeast wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
Magna wrote:
I don't think it's such an outrageous thought. She won the popular vote last time. Whose to say she couldn't win in 2020? She has the most national political recognition of any other democrat, even more so than Bernie. Certainly more so than Warren, Booker, Ocasio-Cortez or Kamala Harris.



The fact that she could win is what scares me the most. If the only important thing is getting Trump out of office, then I think we are truly f****d as a nation. Yes, let's elect one of the most corrupt, arrogant, self-entitled, elitist politicians in U.S history to the highest office. Hey, at least she isn't Trump! When does this madness end?


With the eviction of Trump from the White House he's trespassing.



And where will that lead us? We'll just keep kicking the can down the road and swinging the pendulum back and forth between the two criminal gangs that continue to f**k us over time and time again. I wouldn't vote for Hillary if her opponent was Satan himself.


He is.

Be careful of what you wish for.



Well, then I'll just go ahead and vote for Satan. We're circling the drain, anyway, right? Might as well get it over as quickly as possible. Why drag it out?


When Trump sets himself up as dictator-for-life and puts all his concentration camps in place, you'll learn what "drag it out" really means.



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13 Nov 2018, 7:37 pm

thoughtbeast wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
thoughtbeast wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
thoughtbeast wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
Magna wrote:
I don't think it's such an outrageous thought. She won the popular vote last time. Whose to say she couldn't win in 2020? She has the most national political recognition of any other democrat, even more so than Bernie. Certainly more so than Warren, Booker, Ocasio-Cortez or Kamala Harris.



The fact that she could win is what scares me the most. If the only important thing is getting Trump out of office, then I think we are truly f****d as a nation. Yes, let's elect one of the most corrupt, arrogant, self-entitled, elitist politicians in U.S history to the highest office. Hey, at least she isn't Trump! When does this madness end?


With the eviction of Trump from the White House he's trespassing.



And where will that lead us? We'll just keep kicking the can down the road and swinging the pendulum back and forth between the two criminal gangs that continue to f**k us over time and time again. I wouldn't vote for Hillary if her opponent was Satan himself.


He is.

Be careful of what you wish for.



Well, then I'll just go ahead and vote for Satan. We're circling the drain, anyway, right? Might as well get it over as quickly as possible. Why drag it out?


When Trump sets himself up as dictator-for-life and puts all his concentration camps in place, you'll learn what "drag it out" really means.




Yeah, that would be a serious bummer. Damn! You've convinced me! I'm voting for Hillary. Don't want any of that s**t!


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13 Nov 2018, 7:42 pm

sly279 wrote:
envirozentinel wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
envirozentinel wrote:
Parties seldom nominate a candidate these days who previously lost. There have been several who lost twice, and the unfortunate William Jennings Bryan who lost three presidential elections, but today that would be unlikely.

She has too much baggage!

Her supporters point out that she WON the popular vote.

They say she was "cheated" by Russian tampering.

So, it's only fair to give her another chance.



No, if she was cheated, it was by the skewed electoral college system. Most countries elect their president directly by highest popular vote rather than by how the vote went in states or provinces.


That’d cause a civil war, we fought a revolution for similar reasons. The coasts of the USA are not the whole country, this is precisely why we have the electoral college.


No, we didn't have a revolution "for similar reasons". We had a revolution to secure independence from Great Britain.

We could get rid of the problems caused by the Electoral College simply by divvying up the electors from each state in proportion to how many votes each candidate gets. Two states already do this.

The reason we have an electoral college was to give slave states an advantage in selecting the president.

The Troubling Reason the Electoral College Exists

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...Standard civics-class accounts of the Electoral College rarely mention the real demon dooming direct national election in 1787 and 1803: slavery.

At the Philadelphia convention, the visionary Pennsylvanian James Wilson proposed direct national election of the president. But the savvy Virginian James Madison responded that such a system would prove unacceptable to the South: “The right of suffrage was much more diffusive [i.e., extensive] in the Northern than the Southern States; and the latter could have no influence in the election on the score of Negroes.” In other words, in a direct election system, the North would outnumber the South, whose many slaves (more than half a million in all) of course could not vote. But the Electoral College—a prototype of which Madison proposed in this same speech—instead let each southern state count its slaves, albeit with a two-fifths discount, in computing its share of the overall count.

Virginia emerged as the big winner—the California of the Founding era—with 12 out of a total of 91 electoral votes allocated by the Philadelphia Constitution, more than a quarter of the 46 needed to win an election in the first round. After the 1800 census, Wilson’s free state of Pennsylvania had 10% more free persons than Virginia, but got 20% fewer electoral votes. Perversely, the more slaves Virginia (or any other slave state) bought or bred, the more electoral votes it would receive. Were a slave state to free any blacks who then moved North, the state could actually lose electoral votes.

If the system’s pro-slavery tilt was not overwhelmingly obvious when the Constitution was ratified, it quickly became so. For 32 of the Constitution’s first 36 years, a white slaveholding Virginian occupied the presidency...



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13 Nov 2018, 8:09 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:
envirozentinel wrote:
Parties seldom nominate a candidate these days who previously lost. There have been several who lost twice, and the unfortunate William Jennings Bryan who lost three presidential elections, but today that would be unlikely.

She has too much baggage!

Her supporters point out that she WON the popular vote.

They say she was "cheated" by Russian tampering.

So, it's only fair to give her another chance.


Why don't we just put all presidential candidates in the loony bin over grandiose delusions? Seriously how nuts must one be to want that job?


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14 Nov 2018, 12:17 pm

cberg wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
envirozentinel wrote:
Parties seldom nominate a candidate these days who previously lost. There have been several who lost twice, and the unfortunate William Jennings Bryan who lost three presidential elections, but today that would be unlikely.

She has too much baggage!

Her supporters point out that she WON the popular vote.

They say she was "cheated" by Russian tampering.

So, it's only fair to give her another chance.


Why don't we just put all presidential candidates in the loony bin over grandiose delusions? Seriously how nuts must one be to want that job?

If she wins, she gets more book deals, more speeches, more tours, a library ....

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