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19 Oct 2019, 8:35 pm

I don’t believe people necessarily inherit political tendencies. Trump shouldn’t be vilified just for having parents/grandparents who were racists.

People are frequently able to transcend their genes.



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19 Oct 2019, 10:45 pm

EzraS wrote:
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Unless you've been a lifelong vegan and never wear leather, I see virtue signalling and crocodile tears. Don't ever go into a store like Cabela's. It's packed with stuffed game animals. Might give you PSTD.


I take your point. But my post was aimed at vegetable man's claim for an association with having a low IQ and having a taste for torturing animals. This of course is a fallacy of assuming correlation = causation.

Of course with the Trump's the genetic inheritance from their KKK grandfather (on a side note I also discovered this week that Harry Truman was a former member of the KKK) they also inherited a aggressive/pathological streak which is probably more important than having a low IQ.

I am sure folks on WP who score low on FSIQ scores wouldn't appreciate vegetable man's slur


I doubt many think Theodore Roosevelt was a man with a low IQ. Even though there are countless photos of him posing with dead elephants, rinos, leopards etc that he shot for sport. As for having a tatse for torturing animals, you literally have a that if you have ever enjoyed eating store bought meat. Even fishing can be called torturing animals. You just want to villify the Trumps.

The low IQ VM was talking about was people putting themselves in danger by gathering around a wild animal that could maul them, without seeming to have any sense whatsoever of the danger they were putting themselves in.

Big difference between that and being on a safari with villagers who have been dealing with those animals for generations.


As a meat eater I can't really fault your logic. To be fair Theodore Roosevelt lived 130 years ago whereas Trump's sons are hunting animals right now. But then I supposed the extermination of domestic animals (I include greyhounds, pound pets and horses) can't be held to a different standard so I stand corrected.



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20 Oct 2019, 3:45 am

Also, you specified "mother elephant". I don't know the story around the mini-Trumps escapades in Africa, but shooting a mother animal caring for young is a very serious ethical breach unless coupled with some very convincing extraordinary circumstances.


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20 Oct 2019, 5:01 am

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Also, you specified "mother elephant". I don't know the story around the mini-Trumps escapades in Africa, but shooting a mother animal caring for young is a very serious ethical breach unless coupled with some very convincing extraordinary circumstances.


It doesn't exonerate what they did but this forum thread is the wrong platform to introduce their actions



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20 Oct 2019, 5:38 am

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This s**t really irritates me. Unfortunately it's all too common in our national parks. This video taken recently shows a group of genetically challenged humans standing just a few yards away from a black bear in GSMNP.

It won't end well for this bear, unfortunately, since it has lost any fear of humans, probably because some moron has already fed it, or was careless with food storage. Once a bear associates the smell of food with humans, it generally doesn't end well for the creature. Odds are, euthanasia is in its future.


https://unofficialnetworks-com.cdn.ampp ... ck-bear%2F


Most people would have an in built fear factor against doing something like that I'd have thought .



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21 Oct 2019, 10:29 pm

Black bears showed up here to eat my pears, the dog nailed one in the butt and ran it up a tree.


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21 Oct 2019, 10:55 pm

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Black bears showed up here to eat my pears, the dog nailed one in the butt and ran it up a tree.


Aw poor Boo-Boo.