White man and woman deface Black Lives Matter mural in CA.

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The monuments being removed are mostly ones erected as acts of racism. Confederate statues were erected to let black Americans know who runs the country and has power and control over them. They’re symbols of hate.

BLM mural is a symbol of racial equality & society progressing, people moving forward together.

HUGE difference in vandalizing a BLM mural vs tearing down a statue of some famous slave owner.

If you can’t/don’t see it that way, I’d actually like to hear your take on it.

because the media is more into white people than black children shot yesterday, today, tomorrow.

Who but a racist would topple a statute of Frederick Douglass?

If you're on a crusade against monuments to racism, should it not be encumbent on you to make sure to actually target such monuments, rather than making excuses like "well, most of the stuff we destroyed was racist, so it's ok"?




Marxists or the founder of the Klan. One is a murderous and racist nutjob, and one is a bunch of followers of a historically genocidal ideology. Not great options, and not really a choice I feel compelled to make. But being morally outraged by one and tearing it down because of it does not save you from being a massive hypocrite when you whine about people morally objecting to your mural and vandalizing that.

Lol what are you expecting? Black people to file a petition politely asking their white supremacist government to kindly take down symbols of white supremacy? Lolololol I understand, and support, fully why they’re angrily taking action and toppling them.

And if that’s your perception of BLM you’re either extremely racist, mentally unstable, or both. IMO. Because that is not what BLM is.

Since when were BLM Marxists and since when were Marxists genocidal? You seem to be making s**t up to avoid conceding that you're objectively wrong to compare a BLM mural to confederate monuments.

Then you also understand why the mural was vandalized.

If the US is such a White Supremacy nation and these people tore down the proud monuments to the beloved White Supremacy, why are they still alive? Why haven't Trumps Orangeshirts come down on them hard and crushed their feeble efforts under their lifted jackboots? Why has every athlete and every corporation with a PR department come out in favour of BLM? Or are all the Nazis just that clever?




Oh look, name calling. How quaint.


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FXE: "since when have BLM been Marxist?"
BLM Founder: "We actually do have an ideological framework...we are trained Marxists"
FXE: *surprised Pikachu-face*

As for when Marxists have been genocidal; have you been paying atttention? Ever?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_kill ... st_regimes


"Objectively wrong to compare..." Did you just call your own moral judgement objectively right?

For the record, I support neither the statues nor the destroyers thereof, but if the name of the game is to destroy symbols of views and agendas that one finds morally objectionable then the two are eminently comparable.

To those wearing some seriously rose-tinted goggles, I'm sure that's the case.

And if that’s your perception of BLM you’re either extremely racist, mentally unstable, or both. IMO.

And if there's one thing BLM respects it's public property, right?

I wonder if these topics are considered racist

because the media is more into white people than black children shot yesterday, today, tomorrow.

Secoriea Turner, 8, was shot and killed.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/05/us/atlan ... index.html

All killed last weekend ...

https://www.foxnews.com/us/fourth-of-ju ... -shootings

I'm aware that the founders of BLM have ideological positions beyond anti-racism, that said one doesn't need to be a Marxist (or even a socialist, not that all socialists are Marxists) in order to be involved.

It's strange that this line of reasoning is favored by you as a defence for BLM, who I would guess you support, and not for other groups of people with who you disagree (such as conservatives, right wing people, or Trump supporters)... Any chance of some consistency?

Whining that the founders are socialists really isn't a worthwhile criticism, so it's not even something I'm defending them against. Socialism isn't even inherently a bad thing.

Since when were BLM Marxists?

Black Lives Matter co-founder Patrisse Cullors said in a newly surfaced video from 2015 that she and her fellow organizers are “trained Marxists” – making clear their movement’s ideological foundation, according to a report.

Cullors, 36, was the protégé of Eric Mann, former agitator of the Weather Underground domestic terror organization, and spent years absorbing the Marxist-Leninist ideology that shaped her worldview, Breitbart News reported.

“The first thing, I think, is that we actually do have an ideological frame. Myself and Alicia in particular are trained organizers,” she said, referring to BLM co-founder Alicia Garza.

“We are trained Marxists. We are super-versed on, sort of, ideological theories. And I think that what we really tried to do is build a movement that could be utilized by many, many black folk,” Cullors added in the interview with Jared Ball of The Real News Network.

While promoting her book “When They Call You a Terrorist: A Black Lives Matter Memoir” in 2018, Cullors described her introduction to and support for Marxist ideology.

She described to Democracy Now! how she became a trained organizer with the Labor/Community Strategy Center, which she called her “first political home” under the mentorship of Mann, its director, Breitbart reported.

The center, which describes its philosophy as “an urban experiment,” uses grassroots organization to “focus on Black and Latino communities with deep historical ties to the long history of anti-colonial, anti-imperialist, pro-communist resistance to the US empire,” according to the outlet.

It also expresses its appreciation for the work of the US Communist Party, “especially Black communists,” as well as its support for “the great work of the Black Panther Party, the American Indian Movement, Young Lords, Brown Berets, and the great revolutionary rainbow experiments of the 1970s,” Breitbart reported.

In 1968, Mann was a coordinator for Students for a Democratic Society, from which a more radical wing –- the Weather Underground — was splintered the following year.

It was led by Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, who called for “direct action” over civil disobedience, seeking the overthrow of the US government. In 1969, the FBI classified the group as a domestic terror organization.

Mann was eventually charged with assault and battery, disturbing the peace, damaging property, defacing a building and disturbing a public assembly, for which he spent 18 months behind bars.