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24 Sep 2020, 1:16 am

Sorry Rittenhouse's fees are $0 if the vigilante work is against BLM so gun for loan



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“I am a Black man and I speak for the office,” Cameron said in response to a question about the racial makeup of the investigators in the Taylor case. Twice during his news conference, Cameron’s emotions welled up, catching his throat as he contemplated how his mother might react if he were to be the victim of a similar tragedy and as he considered a question about finding justice for Black Americans.

And despite Cameron’s persistent efforts to present his findings and the grand jury’s decision as the logical and necessary result of a process that put aside the emotions of this wrenching year, he kept coming back to the reality of 2020 in Louisville and in American politics.

“I certainly understand the pain that has been brought about by the tragic death of Breonna Taylor,” he said. “I understand that as a Black man.”

But “if we simply act on emotion or outrage, there is no justice,” Cameron added. “Justice is not easy. It does not fit the mold of public opinion.

Cameron explained why Taylor’s death was not a murder, why the two officers who shot her were justified in using deadly force, why the law precluded him from deciding on his own whether the officers ought to be charged in her death.


Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/louisville-breonna-taylor-daniel-cameron/2020/09/23/4315f5c8-fdb8-11ea-8d05-9beaaa91c71f_story.html



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24 Sep 2020, 2:55 am

Breonna Taylor decision: two officers shot in Louisville as protests erupt across US
Some of the protests have resulted in disturbances but nothing yet like post George Floyd. The officers is Louisville did not sustain life threatening injuries and a suspect is in custody.


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24 Sep 2020, 3:28 am

Brictoria wrote:
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If I were Breonna Taylor's family I'd have mixed emotions,an indictment but not murder or even manslaughter.


The charges have nothing to do with her, they're about her neighbours. This is deeply disappointing, utterly nothing resembling justice for her has occurred yet.

Breanna Taylor died,how are charges not about her,am I missing something.


As I understand it, the only charges laid were related to one officer firing shots which went into a different appartment.
So Breonna Taylor died in vain?


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24 Sep 2020, 3:39 am

vermontsavant wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
If I were Breonna Taylor's family I'd have mixed emotions,an indictment but not murder or even manslaughter.


The charges have nothing to do with her, they're about her neighbours. This is deeply disappointing, utterly nothing resembling justice for her has occurred yet.

Breanna Taylor died,how are charges not about her,am I missing something.


As I understand it, the only charges laid were related to one officer firing shots which went into a different appartment.
So Breonna Taylor died in vain?


I'm not sure 'in vain' is relevant, she was shot inside of her own home while doing nothing wrong based on police lying to obtain a warrant they never should have been granted. Of course it was for nothing, she didn't choose to die for a cause and no justice has been served.

The people who shot her in her own damn home for no good reason have yet to face any repercussions for murdering her, so far one of only one of them faced repercussions for something else related to that incident. No charges have been laid directly related to what was done to her though.
No justice has yet to occur


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24 Sep 2020, 3:47 am

funeralxempire wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
If I were Breonna Taylor's family I'd have mixed emotions,an indictment but not murder or even manslaughter.


The charges have nothing to do with her, they're about her neighbours. This is deeply disappointing, utterly nothing resembling justice for her has occurred yet.

Breanna Taylor died,how are charges not about her,am I missing something.


As I understand it, the only charges laid were related to one officer firing shots which went into a different appartment.
So Breonna Taylor died in vain?


I'm not sure 'in vain' is relevant, she was shot inside of her own home while doing nothing wrong based on police lying to obtain a warrant they never should have been granted. Of course it was for nothing, she didn't choose to die for a cause and no justice has been served.

The people who shot her in her own damn home for no good reason have yet to face any repercussions for murdering her, so far one of only one of them faced repercussions for something else related to that incident. No charges have been laid directly related to what was done to her though.
No justice has yet to occur


Retribution is not justice...

Do you have evidence of the police "lying to obtain a warrant"? Otherwise it is just wishful thinking to make (or believe) baseless claims such as yours, which leads people into getting worked up over your own lies.

Did she deserve to die? no.
Did the police have a warrant, independently approved? yes.
Did the police provide notice that they were there? According to neighbours, yes.
Did a person inside the appartment open fire on police without warning? yes.
Did the police return fire? yes.

In all of this, the person most responsible is the boyfriend, who opened fire on the police, and who (as far as I can tell) was the target of the warrnts for drugs related reasons.

You would be better served by focussing your disappointment on this person, as without his presence, actions, or potential illicit activities, Breonna would still be alive.



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24 Sep 2020, 3:55 am

Brictoria wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
If I were Breonna Taylor's family I'd have mixed emotions,an indictment but not murder or even manslaughter.


The charges have nothing to do with her, they're about her neighbours. This is deeply disappointing, utterly nothing resembling justice for her has occurred yet.

Breanna Taylor died,how are charges not about her,am I missing something.


As I understand it, the only charges laid were related to one officer firing shots which went into a different appartment.
So Breonna Taylor died in vain?


I'm not sure 'in vain' is relevant, she was shot inside of her own home while doing nothing wrong based on police lying to obtain a warrant they never should have been granted. Of course it was for nothing, she didn't choose to die for a cause and no justice has been served.

The people who shot her in her own damn home for no good reason have yet to face any repercussions for murdering her, so far one of only one of them faced repercussions for something else related to that incident. No charges have been laid directly related to what was done to her though.
No justice has yet to occur


Retribution is not justice...

Do you have evidence of the police "lying to obtain a warrant"? Otherwise it is just wishful thinking to make (or believe) baseless claims such as yours, which leads people into getting worked up over your own lies.

Did she deserve to die? no.
Did the police have a warrant, independently approved? yes.
Did the police provide notice that they were there? According to neighbours, yes.
Did a person inside the appartment open fire on police without warning? yes.
Did the police return fire? yes.

In all of this, the person most responsible is the boyfriend, who opened fire on the police, and who (as far as I can tell) was the target of the warrnts for drugs related reasons.

You would be better served by focussing your disappointment on this person, as without his presence, actions, or potential illicit activities, Breonna would still be alive.


News has reported on local postal officials disputing the claim that 'suspicious packages' were ever received at her address, undermining the excuse used by police to obtain the warrant. No probable cause means they had no right to be there to conduct a raid.

It wasn't her boyfriend's fault men who appeared to be robbers were breaking into their home, he responded as he was within his rights to.


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24 Sep 2020, 4:00 am

so the one flatfoot that got charged basically with destruction of property, that indicates that the PTB value property more than they value human lives. isn't that special.



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24 Sep 2020, 4:11 am

funeralxempire wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
If I were Breonna Taylor's family I'd have mixed emotions,an indictment but not murder or even manslaughter.


The charges have nothing to do with her, they're about her neighbours. This is deeply disappointing, utterly nothing resembling justice for her has occurred yet.

Breanna Taylor died,how are charges not about her,am I missing something.


As I understand it, the only charges laid were related to one officer firing shots which went into a different appartment.
So Breonna Taylor died in vain?


I'm not sure 'in vain' is relevant, she was shot inside of her own home while doing nothing wrong based on police lying to obtain a warrant they never should have been granted. Of course it was for nothing, she didn't choose to die for a cause and no justice has been served.

The people who shot her in her own damn home for no good reason have yet to face any repercussions for murdering her, so far one of only one of them faced repercussions for something else related to that incident. No charges have been laid directly related to what was done to her though.
No justice has yet to occur


Retribution is not justice...

Do you have evidence of the police "lying to obtain a warrant"? Otherwise it is just wishful thinking to make (or believe) baseless claims such as yours, which leads people into getting worked up over your own lies.

Did she deserve to die? no.
Did the police have a warrant, independently approved? yes.
Did the police provide notice that they were there? According to neighbours, yes.
Did a person inside the appartment open fire on police without warning? yes.
Did the police return fire? yes.

In all of this, the person most responsible is the boyfriend, who opened fire on the police, and who (as far as I can tell) was the target of the warrnts for drugs related reasons.

You would be better served by focussing your disappointment on this person, as without his presence, actions, or potential illicit activities, Breonna would still be alive.


News has reported on local postal officials disputing the claim that 'suspicious packages' were ever received at her address, undermining the excuse used by police to obtain the warrant. No probable cause means they had no right to be there to conduct a raid.

It wasn't her boyfriend's fault men who appeared to be robbers were breaking into their home, he responded as he was within his rights to.


Define "suspicious packages"...

As I understood it, the boyfriend was involved in some drug related issues and parcels were being sent to him at Beonna's address, which was the reason for the warrant. The fact that the packages may not have contained what the police thought was in them does not make the reason behind the warrant a lie, merely that they were relying on incorrect information.

The fact that it was confirmed that the police had identified themselves before entering lowers the chance of his having cause to believe it was "robbers"...Had they not provided warning, and entered as permitted under the no-knock warrant they had, Breonna would likely be alive as he would have had less time to prepare (find gun and fire) than was provided by their knocking and announcing their presence.

The entire issue comes down to her boyfriends actions, both regarding his alleged drug related activities and his firing on the police.



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24 Sep 2020, 4:19 am

Brictoria wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
If I were Breonna Taylor's family I'd have mixed emotions,an indictment but not murder or even manslaughter.


The charges have nothing to do with her, they're about her neighbours. This is deeply disappointing, utterly nothing resembling justice for her has occurred yet.

Breanna Taylor died,how are charges not about her,am I missing something.


As I understand it, the only charges laid were related to one officer firing shots which went into a different appartment.
So Breonna Taylor died in vain?


I'm not sure 'in vain' is relevant, she was shot inside of her own home while doing nothing wrong based on police lying to obtain a warrant they never should have been granted. Of course it was for nothing, she didn't choose to die for a cause and no justice has been served.

The people who shot her in her own damn home for no good reason have yet to face any repercussions for murdering her, so far one of only one of them faced repercussions for something else related to that incident. No charges have been laid directly related to what was done to her though.
No justice has yet to occur


Retribution is not justice...

Do you have evidence of the police "lying to obtain a warrant"? Otherwise it is just wishful thinking to make (or believe) baseless claims such as yours, which leads people into getting worked up over your own lies.

Did she deserve to die? no.
Did the police have a warrant, independently approved? yes.
Did the police provide notice that they were there? According to neighbours, yes.
Did a person inside the appartment open fire on police without warning? yes.
Did the police return fire? yes.

In all of this, the person most responsible is the boyfriend, who opened fire on the police, and who (as far as I can tell) was the target of the warrnts for drugs related reasons.

You would be better served by focussing your disappointment on this person, as without his presence, actions, or potential illicit activities, Breonna would still be alive.


News has reported on local postal officials disputing the claim that 'suspicious packages' were ever received at her address, undermining the excuse used by police to obtain the warrant. No probable cause means they had no right to be there to conduct a raid.

It wasn't her boyfriend's fault men who appeared to be robbers were breaking into their home, he responded as he was within his rights to.


Define "suspicious packages"...

As I understood it, the boyfriend was involved in some drug related issues and parcels were being sent to him at Beonna's address, which was the reason for the warrant. The fact that the packages may not have contained what the police thought was in them does not make the reason behind the warrant a lie, merely that they were relying on incorrect information.

The fact that it was confirmed that the police had identified themselves before entering lowers the chance of his having cause to believe it was "robbers"...Had they not provided warning, and entered as permitted under the no-knock warrant they had, Breonna would likely be alive as he would have had less time to prepare (find gun and fire) than was provided by their knocking and announcing their presence.

The entire issue comes down to her boyfriends actions, both regarding his alleged drug related activities and his firing on the police.


If he was involved in 'drug related activities' why have no charges been filed against him Bric? You're defaming the man needlessly and dishonestly.


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24 Sep 2020, 4:28 am

funeralxempire wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
If I were Breonna Taylor's family I'd have mixed emotions,an indictment but not murder or even manslaughter.


The charges have nothing to do with her, they're about her neighbours. This is deeply disappointing, utterly nothing resembling justice for her has occurred yet.

Breanna Taylor died,how are charges not about her,am I missing something.


As I understand it, the only charges laid were related to one officer firing shots which went into a different appartment.
So Breonna Taylor died in vain?


I'm not sure 'in vain' is relevant, she was shot inside of her own home while doing nothing wrong based on police lying to obtain a warrant they never should have been granted. Of course it was for nothing, she didn't choose to die for a cause and no justice has been served.

The people who shot her in her own damn home for no good reason have yet to face any repercussions for murdering her, so far one of only one of them faced repercussions for something else related to that incident. No charges have been laid directly related to what was done to her though.
No justice has yet to occur
That's what I was saying,no one is going to serve time for her death.


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24 Sep 2020, 4:32 am

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If he was involved in 'drug related activities' why have no charges been filed against him Bric? You're defaming the man needlessly and dishonestly.


This seems to be a modus operandi in the Kyle Rittenhouse case as well where his supporters and the right wing media is dragging the victims criminal records as if having a criminal record makes it plausible they deserve to die.



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24 Sep 2020, 4:45 am

Officer Bret Hankerson was Originally fired for giving suspects free rides home in a police car in exchange for sexual favors.

He faces 1 and a half to five years for current charges


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Officer Bret Hankerson was Originally fired for giving suspects free rides home in a police car in exchange for sexual favors.

He faces 1 and a half to five years for current charges


He sounds like another Derek Chauvin



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24 Sep 2020, 5:06 am

funeralxempire wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
If I were Breonna Taylor's family I'd have mixed emotions,an indictment but not murder or even manslaughter.


The charges have nothing to do with her, they're about her neighbours. This is deeply disappointing, utterly nothing resembling justice for her has occurred yet.

Breanna Taylor died,how are charges not about her,am I missing something.


As I understand it, the only charges laid were related to one officer firing shots which went into a different appartment.
So Breonna Taylor died in vain?


I'm not sure 'in vain' is relevant, she was shot inside of her own home while doing nothing wrong based on police lying to obtain a warrant they never should have been granted. Of course it was for nothing, she didn't choose to die for a cause and no justice has been served.

The people who shot her in her own damn home for no good reason have yet to face any repercussions for murdering her, so far one of only one of them faced repercussions for something else related to that incident. No charges have been laid directly related to what was done to her though.
No justice has yet to occur


Retribution is not justice...

Do you have evidence of the police "lying to obtain a warrant"? Otherwise it is just wishful thinking to make (or believe) baseless claims such as yours, which leads people into getting worked up over your own lies.

Did she deserve to die? no.
Did the police have a warrant, independently approved? yes.
Did the police provide notice that they were there? According to neighbours, yes.
Did a person inside the appartment open fire on police without warning? yes.
Did the police return fire? yes.

In all of this, the person most responsible is the boyfriend, who opened fire on the police, and who (as far as I can tell) was the target of the warrnts for drugs related reasons.

You would be better served by focussing your disappointment on this person, as without his presence, actions, or potential illicit activities, Breonna would still be alive.


News has reported on local postal officials disputing the claim that 'suspicious packages' were ever received at her address, undermining the excuse used by police to obtain the warrant. No probable cause means they had no right to be there to conduct a raid.

It wasn't her boyfriend's fault men who appeared to be robbers were breaking into their home, he responded as he was within his rights to.


Define "suspicious packages"...

As I understood it, the boyfriend was involved in some drug related issues and parcels were being sent to him at Beonna's address, which was the reason for the warrant. The fact that the packages may not have contained what the police thought was in them does not make the reason behind the warrant a lie, merely that they were relying on incorrect information.

The fact that it was confirmed that the police had identified themselves before entering lowers the chance of his having cause to believe it was "robbers"...Had they not provided warning, and entered as permitted under the no-knock warrant they had, Breonna would likely be alive as he would have had less time to prepare (find gun and fire) than was provided by their knocking and announcing their presence.

The entire issue comes down to her boyfriends actions, both regarding his alleged drug related activities and his firing on the police.


If he was involved in 'drug related activities' why have no charges been filed against him Bric? You're defaming the man needlessly and dishonestly.


Quote:
Jamarcus Glover, Breonna Taylor's ex-boyfriend, was arrested on drug charges Thursday, a day after telling a local Kentucky newspaper Taylor had no involvement in any alleged drug trade.

Glover was a focus in a narcotics probe by Louisville police that eventually led officers to execute a "no-knock" warrant on Taylor's home in March. He told the Louisville Courier Journal on Wednesday that police used misleading and wrong information to obtain that warrant, during which Taylor, an EMT and aspiring nurse, was fatally shot. No drugs were found in her apartment.

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A CNN investigation found that detectives had linked Taylor's home to Glover, who was suspected of supplying a local drug house. Police said Glover had recently used Taylor's residence as his "current home address," according to an affidavit for a search warrant. The detective who wrote the affidavit said he saw Glover walk into Taylor's apartment in mid-January and leave with a package before going to a "known drug house."

Taylor's apartment on Louisville's South End was one of five locations police obtained search warrants for as part of the investigation.

One officer later told investigators he believed Taylor was alone. But in fact, she was asleep beside her current boyfriend, Kenneth Walker. Walker told investigators he heard banging at the door and assumed it was Glover. Walker grabbed his gun, which was legally owned, per his attorney.

Source: https://edition.cnn.com/2020/08/27/us/breonna-taylor-jamarcus-glover-arrest/index.html

It seems I may have been mistaken, in that it was packages for a prior boyfreind, not the one present during the raid, which were still being sent to her address. I had only seen "boyfriend" on reports previously, describing both males, and so hadn't realised there were 2 different people.



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24 Sep 2020, 5:08 am

cyberdad wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
Officer Bret Hankerson was Originally fired for giving suspects free rides home in a police car in exchange for sexual favors.

He faces 1 and a half to five years for current charges


He sounds like another Derek Chauvin
Yes,and I mispelled his name,it's Brett Hankison,sorry.


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