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how is flynn's call for a military coup not sedition?
it IS sedition. :x 67%  67%  [ 14 ]
it is NOT sedition. :D 14%  14%  [ 3 ]
i'm not sure. :shrug: 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
where's my fruit gelato? :chef: 19%  19%  [ 4 ]
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05 Dec 2020, 1:52 am

why do i get the feeling that if there were no POC in our country, our politics would be totally different?



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05 Dec 2020, 1:56 am

auntblabby wrote:
why do i get the feeling that if there were no POC in our country, our politics would be totally different?


You would be more like Australia, except we did a better job with genocide of indigenous people.



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05 Dec 2020, 1:59 am

8O though lord, we tried.



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05 Dec 2020, 2:08 am

auntblabby wrote:
8O though lord, we tried.


The native tribes sigh of relief...thank god for Custer :lol:



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05 Dec 2020, 2:19 am

custer thought he was god, look where it got him, as worm food. flynn himself, merely another general, may have a god complex as well.



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05 Dec 2020, 2:25 am

auntblabby wrote:
custer thought he was god, look where it got him, as worm food. flynn himself, merely another general, may have a god complex as well.


Probably



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05 Dec 2020, 4:19 am

cyberdad wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
why do i get the feeling that if there were no POC in our country, our politics would be totally different?


You would be more like Australia, except we did a better job with genocide of indigenous people.


Why the hyper-virtue signaling?
Why do you feel a need to piss on your country through hyperbole? 8O



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05 Dec 2020, 5:05 am

Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
why do i get the feeling that if there were no POC in our country, our politics would be totally different?


You would be more like Australia, except we did a better job with genocide of indigenous people.


Why the hyper-virtue signaling?
Why do you feel a need to piss on your country through hyperbole? 8O


Probably being a bit harsh, but let's face it, our indigenous aren't happy.



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05 Dec 2020, 6:29 am

neither are ours. but it needs to be said that some of their internal politics are brutal.



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05 Dec 2020, 6:49 am

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Nothing says "I believe in the constitution" like calling for a military coup. If you're a trump supporter at least. Ever notice how some think that if you're a true believer in the constitution then you can do all sorts of unconstitutional things to supposedly protect the constitution?


How do you get a liberty-loving patriot to support a coup? Easy. Subvert the Constitution in the first place. Most of these people believe the Constitution has already been subverted and it's all a game at this point. Honestly, they're not totally off-base.

When in your life have you ever lived under threat of detention or arrest for running a small business in America, or patronizing a small business without wearing a mandated garment on your FACE? When have you ever had to worry about interstate travel and being forced to show papers? This is the most unfree our country has ever been in my lifetime, and ditto for those of you much older and much younger than me.



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05 Dec 2020, 6:59 am

Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
why do i get the feeling that if there were no POC in our country, our politics would be totally different?


You would be more like Australia, except we did a better job with genocide of indigenous people.


Why the hyper-virtue signaling?
Why do you feel a need to piss on your country through hyperbole? 8O


I thought it was more like dark humor. Though I could be wrong. It recalls to me some of the black humor hospice nurses use among themselves. It is also a way to deal with uncomfortable feelings.


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05 Dec 2020, 7:17 am

blazingstar wrote:
Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
why do i get the feeling that if there were no POC in our country, our politics would be totally different?


You would be more like Australia, except we did a better job with genocide of indigenous people.


Why the hyper-virtue signaling?
Why do you feel a need to piss on your country through hyperbole? 8O


I thought it was more like dark humor. Though I could be wrong. It recalls to me some of the black humor hospice nurses use among themselves. It is also a way to deal with uncomfortable feelings.


Its neither.

Its something else.

Something called "stating the truth". :lol:



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05 Dec 2020, 7:22 am

^ I could have said that, but I was afraid of starting another war of words. :D :D :D

Dark humor is a way of dealing with uncomfortable truths.


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05 Dec 2020, 8:14 am

let us have more dark humor then. in these times of universal deceit it is akin to a revolutionary act to engage in dark humor. truthful dark humor.



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05 Dec 2020, 1:01 pm

Yikes! Another story here: Lawyers Condemn Michael Flynn and Lin Wood’s ‘Breathtakingly Morally Treasonous’ Call for Trump to Declare Martial Law and Hold New Election, by Jerry Lambe, Law and Crime, Dec 2nd, 2020.

I can't know for sure, of course, but my guess is that Trump will try this at some point before Jan. 20, especially if enough high-profile far-right folks egg him on. But hopefully the military will reject it as an unlawful order.


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05 Dec 2020, 6:21 pm

ezbzbfcg2 wrote:
roronoa79 wrote:
Nothing says "I believe in the constitution" like calling for a military coup. If you're a trump supporter at least. Ever notice how some think that if you're a true believer in the constitution then you can do all sorts of unconstitutional things to supposedly protect the constitution?


How do you get a liberty-loving patriot to support a coup? Easy. Subvert the Constitution in the first place. Most of these people believe the Constitution has already been subverted and it's all a game at this point. Honestly, they're not totally off-base.

When in your life have you ever lived under threat of detention or arrest for running a small business in America, or patronizing a small business without wearing a mandated garment on your FACE? When have you ever had to worry about interstate travel and being forced to show papers? This is the most unfree our country has ever been in my lifetime, and ditto for those of you much older and much younger than me.

These kinds of conservatives have killed my ability to take them seriously when they act like the only True Patriots and True Constitutionalists. It's like they think they're the only truly patriotic special snowflake Americans. Hearing a conservative cry "Unconstitutional!" at this point is like hearing the boy who cried "Wolf!".

I roll my eyes at Republicans who act like they're the only ones who really believe in the constitution for the same reason I roll my eyes at Christians who act like their denomination is the only one that really believes in the Bible.

These are not attacks on freedom so much as they are temporary emergency measures. They should not need to be enforced by law, but millions of Americans have made it clear that they don't want to have to ever make any sacrifices or changes to their behavior to combat a pandemic. It's a sign of being sheltered from and ignorant of what real oppression is.

They argue against having to change their behavior from a legalistic perspective, because on some level they know that arguing against it from a scientific perspective is impossible.


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