Gay couple left free to abuse boys

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It is not natural for children to be brought up by two males.

18 children in 15 months....The social workers were throwing children at these fiends like candy.

Manalitwist:

Sounds like you've been a victim of brainwashing, yourself. You have a good point in that the situation with "political correctness" is unacceptable - gay, straight, black, white, disabled, female, whatever; A pedophile is a pedophile and a criminal is a criminal. While it's important that a group of individuals not be discriminated against, it's equally, if not more, important that they not become "untouchable" by nature of their social status.

What the social workers did in this case is abhorrent, and the children have paid the price. NT society is so concerned with image over truth that there's a constant back-and-forth dance that they do - swinging back and forth between callous and neglectful, and paranoid and phobic. Social work is one of the areas in which this dance is most obvious - reports of evident abuse ignored until a child is finally brutalized to death, and then several years of almost panicked overreaction and reporting every little bruise to the authorities. The sad part is that the overreaction is usually not motivated by actual concern for the child's wellbeing but rather a desire to "cover one's ass" so to speak.

So kudos for recognizing a screwed up situation, but 15 demerits for being unable to recognize that situation without vomiting up spoon-fed propaganda. Adding "absolutely" or "definitely" does not make your gross generalizations any more valid. If you can't back your judgments and opinions up with facts, as you clearly can't, make sure you at least recognize your own close-minded indoctrination for what it truly is: the "brainwashing" that hateful people love to accuse others of. Every time I hear a glassy-eyed conformist griping about the "liberal brainwashing" of the media (or schools, or whatever group they decided not to like today), I can't help but be reminded of the young school child, letting loose an enormous fart and then pointing to the boy next to them and going, "He did it!"

Most of the reason that homosexuals seem "promiscuous" to the uneducated is that, A) BECAUSE of stereotypes like that they are unable to marry, act as a devoted monogomous couple without fear of brutality and even murder, and are thus forced to rely on whatever fleeting comfort they can get from one another; and B) BECAUSE of the persecution they face, it's very hard to find one who isn't depressed, anxious, pessimistic, and even self-destructive. I mean, come on. They face being treated as lepers, or used as the easy target of misplaced aggression.

You force-feed any vulnerable child or adolescent with the idea that they're terrible deviant whorish sinning scum, and that child's probably gonna grow up with some issues. The darkly humorous fact is that so many of the behaviors people label these children with are actually a result of that same labelling.

So congratulations - you are simultaneously the victim of brainwashing, you help keep the cycle going! Way to be part of the problem.

Homosexuals are less likely to be pedophiles and child molesters. But in our society, it's okay for an older man to like young girls - it's unacceptable! but at least it's not (gasp) deviant - but when an older man likes young boys, then suddenly it's depraved as well as unacceptable.

Homosexuals are not predisposed to promiscuity; they are conditioned into it. Homosexuality is not "unnatural"; it's displayed to some degree in most species, and has been a documented part of human history since... well, since history became documented.

I can go get facts, stats, and numbers if you'd like - nice, juicy, validating evidence.

...and yet, when I offer such evidence to people such as yourself, I am usually accused of "peddling liberal media propaganda" or some crap. There's always some nice little excuse to explain away facts you find uncomfortable, isn't there?

But... at least, while your logic is nonexistant and you present your opinion as fact... you do so with less vulgarity than the previous poster.

One last thought: do a search cross-referrencing the "depravation" and other negative traits you are so quick to throw at homosexuals, and other hate group victims. Black people, women, Jewish people, Mexicans, etc... because all the things that you accuse and persecute one group with were once used against another. The only thing that changes is which group you choose to hate. Think about it.

Why thank you Eialune.
You put things verry well yourself.

Gee! We sure have been busy little elves since my post here.

Where to start?
Hmmm..........

Eialune wrote;

I have to agree, no amount of mental gymnastics can alter the fact that homosexuality is perverse.

*Applauds Eialune*

There is no place for nonsensical hatred in rational thought.

Well said, Eialune.

Well said Eialune.
I've found that in general people tend to repeat themselves in arguments. Most arguments I see involve two people who are set in their beliefs and will not really listen to the other side.

Wait a sec.... so Raptor let me get this straight.

Your saying that the ways we measure data and by that matter fact don't matter and all is relative?
So based on that no single stance on something can be more than an opinion in your line of thinking.... But somehow we are to accept your opinion as superior or more moral or whatever in a world where there are no true facts, and we are to do this because.... why?

You give nothing but a self-defeating way of thought and whats more it seems like its only there as a way of backtracking so you don't have to have intelligent discourse or actually defend your views in a mature and intellectual manner.
I'm not so much much offended by your views but by your blatant choice of unabashed ignorant idiocy that you just flaunt.

And no manalitwist, I do not see these as mental gymnastics, in fact we were all kind of haveing a direct A to B correlation line of thinking. Hey logic, remember that?

Then you go on with this whole BS holier than thou spiel about some sort of "moral high ground" you hold above so called "perversity" again without giving any reasons why your claims are true, no reasons at all intelligently formed or otherwise.
To me you might as well just be spouting off nonsense like "The Sky is Green and purple poka dot!", they both seem born of a morons mind.

Have you heard the way homosexuals talk? I dont mean the really affected pantomime style but the slightly nasal lilting tone they have, well that is due to the fact that their asses have been dilated and no doubt vital Qi energy is FALLING out their back orifice. They are not men.

There is not supposed to be a penis up someones ass.

If another animal liked a (human) man having sexual intercourse with it (homosexual or heterosexual) , say a dog perhaps then does that make it ok because it is consenting?