Islamic Schools Trick African Boys Into Begging

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23 Apr 2008, 2:07 pm

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I can tell you straight are they are not. Have you ever simply tried to read the Qu'ran?


To some extent I have, not completely though. Have you read the Epic of Gilgamesh?



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23 Apr 2008, 3:05 pm

Gilgamesh! As a matter of fact I was reccommended to read it today and was going to buy it tommorrow. I say what a coincidence!



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23 Apr 2008, 4:43 pm

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Gilgamesh! As a matter of fact I was reccommended to read it today and was going to buy it tommorrow. I say what a coincidence!


I wouldn't hide in the bushes if I were you and Noah isn't giving away his secret of immortality; have fun bullfighting and remember that if you throw a rock it may turn into a lover.


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23 Apr 2008, 4:51 pm

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Muslims do not do this kind of thing. Muslims have morals, no morals and you get a corrupt society.


Um, that's rather simplistic, I have to say. :?

"Morals" is a more than a bit vague, especially when it can be Islamically "moral" to execute a woman is found sitting with a man who is not her husband. By that time, "morals" becomes just about anything you want it to be.


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23 Apr 2008, 10:46 pm

I not anti-islamic but it's not surprising from the same religion has the people that see bin laden has a messiah and can't stop whineing about Israel if you look at 911 its purely religious 3000 people died because of religion and the intolernece and the allowing of poverty it premotes but if you have no religion society can still become corrupt so you cant win. But I dont think their is a part in the quaran that justifies what he did so they are a bunch of misguided zealots who lost the true path of allah. By the way I am athiest.


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24 Apr 2008, 11:01 am

Has anyone here actually read the Qu'ran?

You all say religious people believe like that *snap*
People who hate Islam belie like that cause its from the news *snap*



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24 Apr 2008, 11:08 am

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Stimshieme wrote:
Muslims do not do this kind of thing. Muslims have morals, no morals and you get a corrupt society.


Um, that's rather simplistic, I have to say. :?

"Morals" is a more than a bit vague, especially when it can be Islamically "moral" to execute a woman is found sitting with a man who is not her husband. By that time, "morals" becomes just about anything you want it to be.


Find me a quote in the Qu'ran that says this.

Women have as much right as the men do. So you are also saying that Islam is bad. I see.

Also it is that simple. And are you saying that Islam says that beggers should be kids out on the streets? No being a begger is like stealing money off people if have the money already earned honestly. Anything that is earned dishonestly is haram - a sin.

Stop blaming Islam its only Saudi Arabia that does this and a few others. Islam doesn't encourage execution - encourages understanding. Al Qaida are just a bunch of a-holes who make true Muslims look like crap. Do you think that I would celebrate the death of 3000 people? No.

Anyway when CNN broadcast the victims nationalities about 400 Muslims were killed. Bet they don't tell you that on the news anymore.



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24 Apr 2008, 11:10 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Stimshieme wrote:
Gilgamesh! As a matter of fact I was reccommended to read it today and was going to buy it tommorrow. I say what a coincidence!


I wouldn't hide in the bushes if I were you and Noah isn't giving away his secret of immortality; have fun bullfighting and remember that if you throw a rock it may turn into a lover.


;P

What are you talking about?
I thought Gilgamesh was a book about the Indian king. still don't have the book though.



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24 Apr 2008, 11:51 am

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Ragtime wrote:
Stimshieme wrote:
Muslims do not do this kind of thing. Muslims have morals, no morals and you get a corrupt society.


Um, that's rather simplistic, I have to say. :?

"Morals" is a more than a bit vague, especially when it can be Islamically "moral" to execute a woman is found sitting with a man who is not her husband. By that time, "morals" becomes just about anything you want it to be.


Find me a quote in the Qu'ran that says this.

Women have as much right as the men do. So you are also saying that Islam is bad. I see.


You know very well that I can find several such quotes, but you will just explain them away, so it's just an obvious delay tactic to get me to waste my time explaining to you something that you already know. And I've gone down that rabbit trail too many times, and wasted far too much time and energy for nothing, to fall for that again.

And yes, I am saying that the parts of Qu'ranic Islam that advocate modern-day murder of those who disagree with you religiously are bad.

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Do you think that I would celebrate the death of 3000 people?


Well, on a website like this, one must ask before one assumes. Sadly, many on this website are glad that September 11th happened, and they know who they are.


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24 Apr 2008, 12:28 pm

Stimshieme wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Stimshieme wrote:
Gilgamesh! As a matter of fact I was reccommended to read it today and was going to buy it tommorrow. I say what a coincidence!


I wouldn't hide in the bushes if I were you and Noah isn't giving away his secret of immortality; have fun bullfighting and remember that if you throw a rock it may turn into a lover.


;P

What are you talking about?
I thought Gilgamesh was a book about the Indian king. still don't have the book though.


References to various parts of the Epic, which you shall see for yourself. In the Epic, Noah (or rather Upanipsupt or some other name for the Biblical Noah) builds the Ark to be a 7 story tall cube, the flood is local, and Noah is immortal if I remember correctly. He should still be alive today! Lets go searching in Iraq now!



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24 Apr 2008, 7:42 pm

I'll say this right up front: the replies on this thread are making me sick. You're all quibbling over whether or not religion has a part in this instead of caring about the children.

Religion played such a role in this story because the abusers either pretend to be or are Islamic. If they pretended to be or were Christian, it would be the same thing, only with the religion substituted. The men are respected by families (who know nothing about their practices, apparently) who wish for their children to receive education. No where in the article did it say that all Muslims were like that.

To imply, like zendell has, that the boys are not being abused but merely cared for a bit harshly is, quite frankly, disgusting.


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24 Apr 2008, 7:43 pm

That's very sad. :cry:


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24 Apr 2008, 7:51 pm

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I'll say this right up front: the replies on this thread are making me sick. You're all quibbling over whether or not religion has a part in this instead of caring about the children.


What are you doing about the children?



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24 Apr 2008, 9:03 pm

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RainSong wrote:
I'll say this right up front: the replies on this thread are making me sick. You're all quibbling over whether or not religion has a part in this instead of caring about the children.


What are you doing about the children?


I all ready sponsor one in Africa. I would sponsor more, but unfortunately, I can't really afford it.


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24 Apr 2008, 9:16 pm

RainSong wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
RainSong wrote:
I'll say this right up front: the replies on this thread are making me sick. You're all quibbling over whether or not religion has a part in this instead of caring about the children.


What are you doing about the children?


I all ready sponsor one in Africa. I would sponsor more, but unfortunately, I can't really afford it.


That's pretty good. As for me, I have no income.

Which is better: affecting an issue at the core, or dealing with the periphery?



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24 Apr 2008, 9:31 pm

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Religion played such a role in this story because the abusers either pretend to be or are Islamic. If they pretended to be or were Christian, it would be the same thing, only with the religion substituted. No where in the article did it say that all Muslims were like that.


Actually RainSong, it's very popular here in the USA to publicize hypocrisy in the Christian faith, examples being Jim Bakker and Jimmy Swaggart. I tend to think that the reluctance to do the same with Islam has to do with the vile PC mindset that the media likes to promote, and it has to do with the fact that the religion of peace likes to threaten to kill, or kill their critics. Examples being Salman Rushdie and Theo Van Gogh.