Georgia County Schools Reactivate Corporal Punishment

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24 Jul 2008, 10:44 am

Bring back the paddle! Bring back the swat!



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24 Jul 2008, 12:13 pm

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Pretty much the same thing here. On one occasion my dad hit me in the head with a 4x4 board until I blacked out. He kicked me a few times and then went to bed. My mom waited until he was asleep, then took me to the hospital.


This is not corporal punishment. This is just cruelty. :(


yah. that's cruelty.

Corporal punishment?

well. Just when the South couldn't reverse itself back to the Salem Witch Trial Era.....(and no offense to anyone from the South if I mock the South) any further then it already has with all it's issues and such, but it seems that the South hasn't gotten out of it's "We Lost" issues with the Civil war, and while i know this has nothing to do with that, it seems a tad bit.......well ironic, that they want to use methods used back in the 1800's and before that to remind kids that we grownups



Actually, the Salem Witch trials took place up north in Massachusetts. As far as the Civil War is concerned, that war has been over for well over almost a century and a half ago. Many people in the South do Civil War re-enactments only as a matter of historical pride. Southerners talk about the civil war in order to point out that slavery was not the main issue for fighting the war. Abraham Lincoln set the slaves free as a TACTICAL MEASURE. The war was fought mainly in order to keep federal control over the states that wanted to secede from the union. In other words, it was about the same old thing - money and power.

As far as race relations is concerned, the South today is very much different then the South of the 50's, 60's and 70's.
Despite what is said on the news about the South, black and white people get along much better than in many, many places up North. Here in North Florida, if a black person comes into a white neighborhood, nobody thinks a thing about it. A few (racist) Southerners may give them a dirty look or two, but that is usually the extent of things. The same goes for a white person entering a black neighborhood. However, up north, if one enters a wrong neighborhood, he or she is at risk of serious trouble.

Many Southerners also use the N-word not as a derogatory thing, but rather as a slang term. It is the same with blacks who call whites, "cracker." I was born in Ohio and spent much of my childhood there before moving down South.
It took me many years to understand Southern culture. My family has adopted a black child, and besides a few stares from some people, we are treated no differently than anyone else.

As far as spanking is concerned, it should not be necessary to use it a lot or all the time, but some physical correction is necessary at times to instill discipline in children. We take care of foster children, and we are not allowed to use any form of physical correction, and we don't. The child we adopted into our family is happy and well behaved. Many people who spank like to quote the Bible verse that says, "Spare the rod and spoil the child." This verse is true, but right under that verse is another that states, "Do not provoke you children to rage." In other words, do not get carried away with spanking or commit abuse.


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24 Jul 2008, 1:52 pm

Good for Georgia, this will straighten up the kids.


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24 Jul 2008, 4:51 pm

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Actually, the Salem Witch trials took place up north in Massachusetts. As far as the Civil War is concerned, that war has been over for well over almost a century and a half ago. Many people in the South do Civil War re-enactments only as a matter of historical pride. Southerners talk about the civil war in order to point out that slavery was not the main issue for fighting the war. Abraham Lincoln set the slaves free as a TACTICAL MEASURE. The war was fought mainly in order to keep federal control over the states that wanted to secede from the union. In other words, it was about the same old thing - money and power.

As far as race relations is concerned, the South today is very much different then the South of the 50's, 60's and 70's.
Despite what is said on the news about the South, black and white people get along much better than in many, many places up North. Here in North Florida, if a black person comes into a white neighborhood, nobody thinks a thing about it. A few (racist) Southerners may give them a dirty look or two, but that is usually the extent of things. The same goes for a white person entering a black neighborhood. However, up north, if one enters a wrong neighborhood, he or she is at risk of serious trouble.

Many Southerners also use the N-word not as a derogatory thing, but rather as a slang term. It is the same with blacks who call whites, "cracker." I was born in Ohio and spent much of my childhood there before moving down South.
It took me many years to understand Southern culture. My family has adopted a black child, and besides a few stares from some people, we are treated no differently than anyone else.


Thank you. I really didn't want to have to write that out; people are too ignorant these days.

I grew up in Georgia and moved to Ohio. I liked the South better, personally.


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24 Jul 2008, 5:23 pm

its good to see that SOME schools aren't so limp-**** about teaching kids some respect.



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24 Jul 2008, 7:11 pm

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Corporal punishment can't discriminate if it is to be effective.

BTW, did you learn your lesson? :twisted:


Lol. Never learned my lesson. Apparently beating me can't stop me from stimming or talking to myself.
She broke my arm that way...maybe I'm just soured to it because of the intensity of the punishment?


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24 Jul 2008, 8:46 pm

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She broke my arm that way...maybe I'm just soured to it because of the intensity of the punishment?


What you went through is not the same thing that these schools are doing at all. A paddle is like a spanking, and if done correctly, doesn't cause any lasting damage. Being beaten, etc, is abuse.


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24 Jul 2008, 8:51 pm

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She broke my arm that way...maybe I'm just soured to it because of the intensity of the punishment?


What you went through is not the same thing that these schools are doing at all. A paddle is like a spanking, and if done correctly, doesn't cause any lasting damage. Being beaten, etc, is abuse.


Oh. I thought I might be misunderstanding this. Then I'm able to see corporal punishment in a more positive light.


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24 Jul 2008, 9:31 pm

Corporal punishment doesn't aim to inflict permanent damage on the person. It's supposed to a proportioniate application of force to the nature of the crime or infraction. However many strokes of the paddle, however many lashes of the whip.



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25 Jul 2008, 4:49 am

Sorry but it's not abuse. I remember getting spanked and yes I tried not to do it again. I also remember the verbal abuse after spanking was no longer tolerated and nope that was way worse and had a lingering effect.

When children find out that all grown ups can do is tell them time out, go to their room and just use words then the children view the grown ups as powerless and weak.

It IS however abuse if taken to the extreme. Hitting too hard, leaving bruises, using switches or anything other than hand or paddles.

If you read the CIA handbook you will notice that they have noted that physical abuse in torture camps just didn't have the effect that they wanted so instead they ended up doing psychological traumatizing abuse instead which caused PTSD.

That emotional abuse when children are being verbally assaulted when parent's are at the end of their rope due to being too scared to spank a child for misbehaving has a way more traumatic result in the long run.

A spanking if done properly should have NEVER ever been thought of as "abuse".

This is the nanny state BS that has spread.

Also, some kids don't respond to spanking and don't learn BUT there are kids who do. Time outs don't work for everyone just like spankings don't but it should be up to the parents not the state to figure out what works best.

This will cut down on social worker's work so that maybe they don't have to chase after parents being parents and find kids that really are suffering.

Also, a slap on the hand. Not abuse.

This is the work of social injustice. Not real valid justice.

Go bust parents that don't give a crap about their children.



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25 Jul 2008, 5:44 am

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